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Congress continues class warfare in new budget

Apr 28, 2005 10:18PM PDT
Congress-passed budget plan targets Medicaid.

$70 billion in tax cuts primarily for the wealthy, while the already inadequate Medicaid program (health care for the poor) is cut by $10 billion, along with student loans and pension guarantees. How much clearer could the Republicans "take from the poor and give to the rich" philosophy be? And when are Republican voters with below-median incomes finally going to vote in their own (and the country's) best interests. It would have happened the last two times w/o Bush's wag-the-dog Iraqi War -- but that dog won't hunt in 2006, methinks!

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Alpo is on sale,
Apr 28, 2005 10:23PM PDT

I'm going to stock up so my grandma won't starve because of the Republican budget cuts. What a shock, Liberals using the phrase "class warfare"

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Please try to grasp the
Apr 28, 2005 10:53PM PDT

difference between a tax cut and a welfare program.

To get a tax cut, you have to pay some taxes, and they can pass a law saying they will take less of your money away from you.

Giving more money to the poor is welfare, inflationary, socialistic and rewards the dumbest or laziest people for no positive effort.

I think we should help everyone that needs help, but not to the point where we stiffel initiative and self respect to the current point. People want respect.

In Dorchester county (my local area) we had 1260 people on welfare. They passed a law where you would have to take classes (free) to assist you in getting on your feet. It was predicted that the welfare rolls would drop 30%, but they dropped to less that 500 people right away because many were working a second job and many didn't want to work.

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What?
Apr 28, 2005 10:59PM PDT

It would have happened the last two times w/o Bush's wag-the-dog Iraqi War -- but that dog won't hunt in 2006, methinks!

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You mean the war that Kerry voted for? The Iraq war?

Methinks you need to rethinks your ideas and pepper them with reality and some history.

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Still having problems with simple basic math?
Apr 29, 2005 3:42AM PDT

The founder's vision of government was limited and carefully preserved to the people their rights to their own property and income. The wealthy TAXED AT A HIGHER RATE do tend to receive what appear to the uneducated as larger cuts but only the most ignorant who are virtually unschooled in basic math can believe the fabrication that the cuts are only for the wealthy when simple math shows otherwise.

Government is instituted to protect property of every sort; as well that which lies in the various rights of individuals, as that which the term particularly expresses. This being the end of government, that alone is a just government which impartially secures to every man whatever is his own." -- James Madison

"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical. ... A wise and frugal government...shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. ... Congress has not unlimited powers to provide for the general welfare but only those specifically enumerated. ... Would it not be better to simplify the system of taxation rather than to spread it over such a variety of subjects and pass through so many new hands?" -- Thomas Jefferson

"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents...." -- James Madison

I am going to start a movement that should be firmly clasped to the breast of Democrats because it takes from those who earned and gives to those who didn't.

EVERYONE who has a college degree higher than an associate's degree will be held accountable to pay for someone else's degree. Someone with a Bachelor's degree for instance must, in addition to paying for his or her own, pay for two Associates degrees. A PhD would require paying the costs for a Bachelor and at least two Master's Degrees and one third of another PhD. After all, it is only "fair" that those who have worked to attain a higher education should provide the benefits to others who the government decides are more deserving of the fruits of their labors. Those with higher educations should have to pay their "fair share" and if the government should continue Pells Grants we could whimper and whine about "tax cuts for the educated".