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Computer freezes after a while when playin a game

Hello guys,
So im on the fresh installed windows 7 and all, getting random freezes when playing a game for a while, all i noticed that the keyboard lights goes off as well, while frozen.
After that i have to hit restart.

I was checking the temperatures while stress test, got about 70 °C on GPU and also on CPU on the first two cores, the temp of the CPU overall is about 60-65°C max. But had these temps even before for like 1 year without any problem.


Tried to check disk, reinstal windows, memory test and all seems to be okay.

also I didn't find any error in event viewer, except of this WMI error with event ID 10


"Event filter with query "SELECT * FROM __InstanceModificationEvent WITHIN 60 WHERE TargetInstance ISA "Win32_Processor" AND TargetInstance.LoadPercentage > 99" could not be reactivated in namespace "//./root/CIMV2" because of error 0x80041003. Events cannot be delivered through this filter until the problem is corrected."


pc specs: C2Q q6600 2,4Ghz,OC3,2Ghz
8gb Ram dd2
Amd Radeon r7 370 2Gb
Gigabyte EP35-DS4

(i had the same problem in win 10, that's why i did format and tried win7)

Any else info i can send u guys to help me out? just ask.

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Sorry no.

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I have such a PC here it's a HP D5000T with the C2Q but your post left out make, model, PSU and more details.

The worst part about all this is the age. The CPU is quite old and the system may no longer be able to run without flaws after this many years.

I'd like to give it a go at helping but you left out important details.

Add at a minimum the following.

1. A web report from https://www.piriform.com/docs/speccy/using-speccy/publishing-a-speccy-profile-to-the-web
2. The machine's PSU make and model.
3. If the machine is a Dell, HP and what model.
4. If you have completed the usual canned air work and heat sink compound replacement (it's that old!)

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alright, hope this helps

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so here's info from the speccy

and my PSU is Enermax Liberty 500w elt500awt.

and im cleaning the pc out of dust often..

CPU cooler is Artic Cooling Freezer 7 AC
and two 120mm Noctua's on the backside and upside the case

so hope this helps a little bit.

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There's that PSU. Split rail 22A per rail.

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You elected not to make a web Speccy so it will take additional time for me to look that over.

BBL.

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sorry

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sorry :> tyt

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Speccy

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AV

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do you mean antivirus? if yes, i didn't have time to put any, since i installed the fresh windows yesterday. And im trying to solve this problem since then.

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That split rail again.

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1. http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/asus-radeon-r7-370-strix-review,4.html isn't your card exactly but the GPU of same ATI chip pegged it at 143 Watts. That means it's all too possible for an old PSU to falter as you pass 50% of its rated (when new!) load.

As the years pass you de-rate PSUs to 50%.

Reading on.

2. The CPU TDP is 105W.

While it is not a sure thing we have with just 2 items approached nearly 50% of the PSU's full rated load (when new.) That's not good.

3. GAMING ISSUES!
https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Dota-2-Vulkan/issues/167 notes troubles with that version drivers and Vulkan. This may be the reasons you are seeing crashes.


-> Please folk, use the web method of posting the Speccy. Make it easy on me.

4. DNS. "Preferred DNS server 192.168.2.1"
This can result in subpar internet performance most of the time. Try it with a google DNS of 8.8.8.8


That's it. Pretty clean but that ATI driver game issues looks to be the most likely but that PSU's split rail would be my reason to change that out. Here's a suggestion on that.
https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Electronics-Computer-Power-Supplies/zgbs/electronics/1161760

The top 3 today are single rail. A bump up in size would be nice but not required.

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alright thanks

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well, thanks for the answer, will consider of buying a new PSU then.. just gonna be a little bit pissed if the problem remain Grin

anyway, is there any solution about that ati driver and vulkun, u may know?

and again sorry for that non web post from Speccy.

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I'd ask on the gaming forums.

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I didn't dive deeper for reasons. It took longer to pick through the Speccy but I'd try other than Vulkan, check game forums on the game in question and see if ATI/AMD has released new drivers.

Thanks for understanding about the speccy. It's a bit of work already but changing the format means I have to work just that much harder.

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To put laser focus on the Gaming issue

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What game?

That way we can use google to see if the game is reported to have issues with that driver. We can find Vulkan issues but what game?

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game

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it does on every game except dead by daylight .. it does at Rust, H1Z1, Miscreated.

also now it turned off the whole computer, not even freeze.. Found an Event log ID 6008, which i found it's possibly the PSU issue..

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That's typical of age and power issues.

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i didn't tried vulkan wrapper

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maybe im just a kind of ******, but i dont really get what should i do with that, or prolly my english is kinda on low level for that. :/

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My read on this

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Is it's one to three of these three things.
1. Vulkan drivers again. Which that driver wapper is worth a shot.
2. The PSU. It's old and a dual rail.
3. Just old gear and time to leave the cover off.

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yea, its kinda old

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its old gear, indeed.. but worked well for the games im playing till now..

so yea, i will justt give a try to the new PSU and will see..
i can hit you up here, after i get the new PSU to let u know if that worked Happy


anyway thanks for help, appreciate it!

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Let me share

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I have either a d5000t or d4999t desktop at the office. It's along the same lines of yours and if I saw the troubles I'd try the FREE driver wrapper first.

It's also a freebie to leave the cover off to sniff out heat.

After that we talk about parts and heatsink compound.

Which is something I haven't gotten into here since it tool so long to plow through the Speccy.

Last question. Did you clean out the machine with canned air? Just to be sure?

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yea i did clean it like 1 month ago with canned air

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i can try to make the web Speccy log, if i will find how, hehe.
also, can u recommend me some driver wrapper please?


and if im correct, if the issue is the psu lacking power, cuz of its old, it doesn't have enough power to power up the CPU cooler, right?

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speccy

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Yes.

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Reading it now to see if there's any more.
But while it is in the right format I don't hold out much hope there.

I'd try the driver wrapper as it's free.

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Re-reading it.

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I'd get out my Volt meter to take readings on the PSU.

"Voltage
CPU CORE:
1.344 V
DDR:
1.872 V
+3.3V:
3.232 V
+5V:
4.543 V
+12V:
10.496 V
CMOS BATTERY:
3.184 V"

The +5 is almost out of spec. The +12 looks out of spec (over 10% low.)

The machine looks hotter than last time. So time to:

1. Try the driver wrapper.
2. Leave the case cover off.
3. Get out the Volt meter to confirm or deny those readings.

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was in the menu of game

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when i did the Speccy i was in the game, that's why it was so hot.

i tried to leave the case cover off also, nothing really changed.

sadly dont have volt meter on here.

and i still prolly dont understand all the driver wrapper thing, i was looking for some software, but didn't find anyhting.

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This thread is getting long

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And erroring out for me.

As to the driver wrapper, there are discussion boards for that but I can't see you have changed a thing since we began.

Anyhow, as this thread is erroring out on me, that's why I may not reply again.

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aida

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alright, last two cents here then, i did testing voltage in Aida64 and found out these values http://imgur.com/a/yAJaK .. which seems to be wrong, since it's dropping to really low values.

So im getting a new PSU this week.


anyway thanks to all who tried to help me out!

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At a minimum

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After the install of w7 you install the drivers that came on a disc for that mobo.

Then you go to the mobo maker's site and get the updated drivers.

That mobo does not support w10.

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drivers

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Well, i dont have the disc from that mobo anymore, it's been a years..
Anyway, downloaded the atleast the chipset drivers from their page..

Also i was okay for one year, everything ran pretty well with Win10 on that mobo, this issue started like 4 days ago, the problem appeard from nowhere.

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W10

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That mobo is not a good candidate for w10.
If you run that OS you will be at the mercy of whatever msft feeds you.

If you run w7 with the proper drivers and bios and you still have these problems then it's time to dig deeper.

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I can write W10 seems OK with that chipset.

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I can't find the other C2Q's we have on W10 but the 2 last desktops here are HP d4999t and d5000t and W10 along with a SSD are amazing. We get 35 second boot from power off times and it's grand.

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Microsoft error on system install, here's the fix.

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dont get point 6 and 7

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thanks, i found that one already, but kinda got lost at point 6 and 7, no idea how to make .vbs from .txt.

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The thing is, you are not fixing anything.

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"These events are not indicative of any issue in the system and can be safely ignored."

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