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Question

Clear Type Issues

Jan 31, 2013 2:47AM PST

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TRUE!
Jan 31, 2013 2:52AM PST

Sorry but given you disabled clear type, all I can do is agree this does happen.

Did you need a discussion about how there are only so many pixels and how clear type works to make the best possible display?

This was a software solution to make the best of what pixels are there.
Bob

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Thanks
Jan 31, 2013 5:46AM PST

Hi Bob,

Thank you for your help.


If I understand you correctly, there's no solution to this issue. Is that right?

I've been trying for over a month to fine-tune Clear Type, but whatever I do it doesn't look good.

I'm not sure I got what you meant by "a software solution". Could you elaborate please?

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Clear Type was and is software.
Jan 31, 2013 6:00AM PST

It is a solution to improve what happens when you just pop fonts on screen without using a fixed font that lands perfectly on the LCD matrix.

Here's a wikipedia on LCD Native Resolution and Clear Type.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_resolution
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clear_Type

Today you see Apple offering "Retina Displays" that solve this issue by adding a lot more pixels to the display.

As this could go on for hours in a presentation or class, I have to stop here. We are covering technology, limits of displays and workarounds. The only cure without clear type is to get more pixels per inch.
Bob

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I see below there are FONT issues.
Jan 31, 2013 6:08AM PST

Those issues are, well, legendary. FONT SUBSTITUTION in windows is a tricky thing. I see you changed those entries so my thought is the substituted font is more to your liking.

As you read the above links, ClearType was not turned on in XP and if you do research into the default and substituted fonts in Windows 3, 95, 98, XP, Vista, 7 and now 8 you learn one thing. -> It's inconsistent. <-

You can't move from version to version and expect the same display. Also, if you don't have a printer driver installed and a default printer selected, more troubles. I'll leave you to ponder why that is.
Bob

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More pixels per inch
Jan 31, 2013 7:52AM PST

Thanks again Bob. I really appreciate your help.

I've read the articles in Wikipedia, and it's quite complicated for a layman.
Did you mean changing the DPI from the Control Panel? I've raised it to 108% and it didn't help.

Best regards.

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No. We can't change DPI on a LCD.
Jan 31, 2013 8:48AM PST

The dots per inch on a LCD are fixed. The only way to change them is to change the LCD. This is why we must select the windows resolution to be what the LCD offers. It's also why ClearType was created. To cheat a little and use subpixel rendering.

You asked a good question but the answer is going to take a lot of explaining.
Bob

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I appreciate your kindness
Jan 31, 2013 11:06AM PST

Allow me to thank you again. I appreciate your kindness.

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Re: clear type
Jan 31, 2013 2:52AM PST

And how does it look if you enable ClearType again?

Kees

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Jan 31, 2013 5:58AM PST

Hi Bob,

Thank you for your help.


I don't like Clear Type in general, but that particular page looks better if CT is enabled.

I've also changed the following Registry values:
(It solves the problem in some pages. Microsoft Forum for example).

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Fonts]
"Segoe UI (TrueType)"="segoeui.ttf"
"Segoe UI Bold (TrueType)"="segoeuib.ttf"
"Segoe UI Italic (TrueType)"="segoeuii.ttf"
"Segoe UI Bold Italic (TrueType)"="segoeuiz.ttf"
"Segoe UI Semibold (TrueType)"="seguisb.ttf"
"Segoe UI Light (TrueType)"="segoeuil.ttf"
"Segoe UI Symbol (TrueType)"="seguisym.ttf"

To-
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so, at this stage I'd rather not enable CT again and post the screenshot.


BTW, in Win xp I don't have the problem even if CT is disabled.

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Thank You Kees
Jan 31, 2013 6:04AM PST

My last post was in reply to you. I couudn't find the Edit option in this forum. Happy