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Cingular North America Plans-Canada Calling Dropped??

It is extremely disappointing that Cingular has dropped the North America Plan due to fraud from Mexico. There is a lot of cross border transactions (Canada is US's largest trade partner) with Canada daily and to lump Canada into the new Cingular World is ridiculous! They try to make it sound like this is an improvement charging $3.99 a month and then .19 cents a minute LD + .59 cent a minute roaming that sure is attractive! (Mexico is .09 cents a minute-what gives here!) This is especially absurd when phone companies like SBC (which own Cingular) sell our company LD to Canada, US @ .04 cents a minute. There are more and more VOIP that include US & Canada the same rate with unlimited calling!

Cingular is missing a marketing opportunity with their phrase "all over network", they could have fun with their old TV commercials when they mocked other companies about moving around a room and saying they would get charged roaming while with Cingular you do not. Like being in Detroit or Buffalo where cell signals are routinely picked up by another carrier and then the customer gets a surprise the .79 cent roaming & .59 LD rate, at least the Cingular World looks attractive beside this charge but still is crazy!

There are so many similarities with Rogers Network in Canada to Cingular:

Both comprised of merged companies-(Rogers= Rogers AT&T + Fido)
Both operate GSM 1900 & 850 MHz + TDMA + Analog (Rogers deployed GSM overlay a year earlier)
same dialing pattern as USA, (unlike Mexican Market)
offer the same handsets & PDA's
Cingular needs to bring back AT&T's old $9.99 Canada add on to their Digital One Rate Plans. I am sure both Rogers & Cingular would benefit from a revised agreement to include Canada & USA in one rate plan, this would put a big jump on the competition which is on Cingular's ankles. (Verizon & Sprint-Nextel) The Cingular World Plans may be attractive for overseas but they do not cut it for USA-Canada commerce!

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Cingular North American Plan

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I too am frustrated with the loss of Cingular's North American plan. I specifically changed to Cingular for that plan. I have not found another that offers anything close to it.

We are in Canada for business 8-10 months of the year. AT&T's Canada Call plan worked, but the Cingular plan ended up being a bit cheaper. I just found out today that the plan has been dropped so I can not make changes to my account or I willl lose the North American plan.

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so who has it?

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Can you get it with another carrier?

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In reply to: so who has it?

Verizon does. Read the other posts.

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Verizon's plan = LD only; roaming charges apply!

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Verizon's plan is here:

It lets you call *parts* of Canada and Mexico w/o long distance charges, but you must originate the call from your Home coverage area (i.e., within United States where Verizon has service)

Cingular's (now retired) North American plan costs the same but you can call from anywhere in North America to anywhere in North America w/o incurring LD or roaming charges.

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Cingular Drops North American Plan

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I agree Cingular has made a big mistake. If Cingular does not let me renew my north american plan when my contract expires I will switch to the north american plan of verizon. I predict enough people will jumb to verizon to drop Cingular to #2 in terms of number of customers.

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North American plan

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If you still have the plan when you upgrade, you will not lose anything. Cingular just isn't signing up new plans like you alreay have. No plan change is required when/if you upgrade your equipment.

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Decided to move on to Verizon

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I was an old AT&T customer with the $9.99 add-on. I have a lot of family in Alberta and B.C. Cingular lets you keep the old plan - unless you want to upgrade to a new phone. Once I realized I couldn't get a cool new phone I thought I'd better give Verizon a call. Verizon does have a North America plan - also includes parts of Mexico and Puerto Rico. The only thing I don't like about Verizon is when their evenings start (9pm) and that you can't buy an earlier evening.

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Issues with Verizon

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I'm glad you moved on to verizon - they seem to offer a better service in general. The only issue I have is that their international roaming is inconvenient, and the only phones they offer are really expensive. Anyone know of another alternative? Both T-Mobile and Cingular have discontinued their North American plans. It's rather frustrating to phone Canada and run up hundreds of dollars of charges.

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North America Plan

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If you're mostly making calls to Canada, a good alternative is to use a phone card or service like, which will allow you to call Canada for about 1.5c/m.

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Phone card = pain in the butt. How much is Verizon plan?

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How much is verizon N.A. plan?

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bad cingular

In reply to: Cingular North America Plans-Canada Calling Dropped??

cingular owns 40% of Rogers, that's why the did away with canada calling. to gouge more money out of you.

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cingular owns 40% of rogers?

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I didn't know that. Truly insidious.

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Just curious, where did you read/hear that? I would like to learn more. Never heard about that.

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actually, yeah...

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I'm searching google for info on it and can't find anything.

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Any updates?

In reply to: Cingular North America Plans-Canada Calling Dropped??

I wholeheartedly agree with you - 0.59/min is a sad joke...especially if presented as an "improvement". Its closer to misleading in advertising?.

I have been on ATTWS for a few years and have used the NA Calling plan on many occasions when I spent time in Canada for either business or pleasure.

Have you contacted Cingular or heard any recent updates on this?

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You expect them to change their policy?

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