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Chronicle: GOP energy bill ineffective, shortsighted

Apr 21, 2005 10:41PM PDT
Energy bill passed by House won't lower gasoline prices or demand for oil.
(Chronicle login: semods4@yahoo.com; pw = speakeasy)

>>the energy bill's failing is not that it can't lower gasoline prices this summer, but that it does little to curb U.S. demand for imported oil and set the nation on a course toward alternative energy sources.<<

As for Bush's claim he has nothing to do with high prices, wasn't one of his first official acts to roll back the sceduled increase in the so-called CAFE standards for fuel efficiency of cars and light trucks sold in the US?

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your extrapolater is broken
Apr 26, 2005 1:54AM PDT

I never said we should be enviromentaly irresponsible

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You basically said "what's the point" in conserving oil
Apr 26, 2005 2:57AM PDT

Same thing, no?

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(NT) (NT) No
Apr 26, 2005 2:59AM PDT
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Part of the point ...
Apr 26, 2005 1:39AM PDT

... is that much -- if not all -- of the environmental changes we are seeing are beyond our control. I know that no amount of pointing out the lack of correlation between CO2 and global temperature will convince you, and you don't want to consider such things as sun spot activity, but that doesn't mean they aren't controlling forces.

We burn more fossil fuels in the 21st century than we did twenty years ago, yet our air is CLEANER. Why? The environuts can be given some credit, but capitalism generated wealth is what funds the technology to be able to do this. There is no greater proof that this is acknowledged globally than in exempting developing economies from the economically suicidal provisions of Kyoto.

CO2 is not a pollutant Josh or else you might want to stop breathing. It isn't harming your health. Particulate emissions have been cut down dramatically. Your health probably faces greater jeapordy in another few years when all the batteries from hybrids are disposed of or recycled.

I really don't know why you aren't ecstatic over the higher oil prices. They will "fuel" the conservation movement more than any protest ever could!

Evie Happy

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Enviroment Changes
Apr 26, 2005 1:49AM PDT

I have no doubt that mankind (and womenkind) can damage or change the enviroment. Go to India, China or Mexico City (places exempt from Kyoto) and see the effects of humans. We have cleaner air and water today because, yes, the government was involved. (Nixon created EPA for the Liberals who typcast conservatives as anti-enviro)

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Trashing the environment ...
Apr 26, 2005 2:03AM PDT

... is a time honored human tradition. In the past nomadic tribes moved on when regional resources were depeleted.

Global temperature, however, cannot be correlated to any human activity except our existence. So I suppose when the radical environmentalists volunteer for a gentle starvation death to control the human population ... Devil And we really ought to rethink spending money on life-extending medical advances Devil

Evie Happy