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Chirac: 'No' vote on E.U. benefits U.S.

Apr 15, 2005 12:58AM PDT

PARIS, April 14 (UPI) -- A "no" vote to the European Constitution would weaken the EU and benefit the United States, warned French President Jacques Chirac, Thursday.

Appearing on a live televised debate with a group of 83 young French citizens aged 18-30, Chirac replied during two full hours to questions from the public, trying to promote a "yes" vote.

Chirac said a European constitution is important to help build a stronger Europe in the face of other powers.

"Europe must be strong, it must have the power to survive in tomorrow's world," said the French president.

Chirac said that France and Europe would in the future face other super powers such as the United States, China, Russia and even Brazil and the rest of Latin America.


sounds like the snail eaters getting desperate Grin

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Chirac's right
Apr 15, 2005 3:35AM PDT

It makes good sense.

It's better to be a big fish (country) in a big pond, than a bunch of small fish (countries) in a big pond.

sounds like the snail eaters getting desperate

maybe getting practical?

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Yep, he's right.
Apr 15, 2005 4:36AM PDT

Heh heh heh heh heh!

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Oh he's right, he needs someone,
Apr 15, 2005 4:47AM PDT

anyone to protect them. The EU can carry them if they want.

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Netherlands may reject the treaty also.
Apr 15, 2005 5:51AM PDT

It's not just France. The EU is on very shaky ground right now. I don't want them to fail, just to feel some pain on the way.

It's good for their souls and fun to watch.

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im sorry but i want them to crash and burn
Apr 15, 2005 6:00AM PDT

dont know why so please dont ask maybe its my biasGrin

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they still can make large white sheets
Apr 15, 2005 4:48AM PDT

its still the reconized flag to use when you surrenderGrin

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(NT) (NT) Not universally recognized, of course.
Apr 15, 2005 4:50AM PDT
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but in there eyes it means surrender a french thing
Apr 15, 2005 5:23AM PDT

in history doubt much has changed

still they have guns fired 1 timed and dropped 1 timeGrin

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Yeah, you say that
Apr 15, 2005 5:37AM PDT

same stuff all the time.

Whatever.

Dan

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dan why do you have to reply to my posts
Apr 15, 2005 6:11AM PDT

it must be envey on your part.

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(NT) (NT) Yeah, you say that same stuff all the time...Whatever.
Apr 17, 2005 10:05AM PDT
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Response
Apr 17, 2005 10:25AM PDT

Surrender flags or KKK outfitsWink

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(NT) (NT) the french arent kkk there at least good people
Apr 17, 2005 10:38AM PDT
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For entertainment only,
Apr 15, 2005 5:00AM PDT

Read the EU constitution and pretend you have to be a EU constitutional lawyer.

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Funny thing is
Apr 15, 2005 5:43AM PDT

A "No" vote probably benefits most of the other countries who could sign the constitution. From what I've heard, and what I've seen of France and Germany's efforts, the constitution would effectively set them above the rest of Europe.

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sounds like the snail eaters getting desperate
Apr 16, 2005 12:32PM PDT

I guess they are not desperate enough

EU Worried by French Vote on Bloc's New Charter

LUXEMBOURG (Reuters) - European Union partners voiced concern on Saturday over growing opposition in France to the EU's first constitution, stressing there was no fallback plan if ratification is rejected in a May referendum.

Founding heavyweight France is the second EU state after Spain to put the bloc's first charter to a popular vote, on May 29, and an opinion poll published on Saturday showed 56 percent of French voters plan to say "No."

Senior EU leaders said that such a political earthquake would plunge the 25-nation bloc into uncertainty. Fear of such an outcome prompted EU foreign ministers, meeting in Luxembourg, to rally behind their French colleague, Michel Barnier.

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So, let's see:
Apr 17, 2005 8:48AM PDT

It might be that many Frenchmen realize that this Euro Constitution will mean that France can no longer be a large fish in a small pond (which I think is what you really meant in your first post). Or, it could be that 56% of the French electorate realize that this document is a hopelessly complex piece of bureaucratic gobbledygook that will take more freedoms from those it governs than it protects or grants. Or it might be both!

In any event, it's nice to see that the citizens of the land of my ancestors are having a rare attack of common sense - whatever the motivation may be.

Have you read this thing yet? If not, go here (Note: All files are PDF, which is OK, since it'll take you hours to plow through the thing, and if you print it, you'll save time and bandwidth).

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Mark
Apr 17, 2005 11:39AM PDT

There is an entire world outside the USA.There are billions of people out there.They may not agree with you,but still have a right to their opinions without being insulted or belittled as you just did to an entire population.You will have a hard time to cope with life if your opinions are the only ones that count.At least if you plan on being an open person with wide views and not limited to your own kitchen.

SPOUS

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tell it to the iraqi people as
Apr 17, 2005 12:35PM PDT

france was in saddams pocket.
you dont like me much and you know what i really dont give a damn.

the french government sucks. you like them great.


and as i only added my comment to that post why dont you write them im sure they will wait and listen to you as much as your the man whos complaing lol the sound of laughter is what i hearGrin