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Checks on 'Joe' more extensive than first acknowledged

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2008/10/29/joe30.html?sid=101

A state agency has revealed that its checks of computer systems for potential information on "Joe the Plumber" were more extensive than it first acknowledged.

Helen Jones-Kelley, director of the Ohio Department of Job and Family Services, disclosed today that computer inquiries on Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher were not restricted to a child-support system.

The agency also checked Wurzelbacher in its computer systems to determine whether he was receiving welfare assistance or owed unemployment compensation taxes, she wrote.
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McCain did him

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no favor by elevating him to icon status.

It's too bad.

Dan

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It's too bad...

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Obama felt the need to tear him down just because he asked a question.

Not supposed to ask questions.

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The Obama campaign ignored him

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until McCain made him the centerpiece of the election and opened him up to the investigation McCain's staff should have done.

Dan

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Wow! What spin!

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Not what happened. McCain didn't make him the "centerpiece" of his campaign ever. That's just sully nonsense. And Obama took off on him right after the debate. Personally and disgustingly making fun of him in a snobby condescending way, What a prince guy our Barack is.

Claims he's gonna fight for the middle class, but he really doesn't like them at all.

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(NT) Blame the victim !!

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McCain mentioned him 127 times in the debate! ! !

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And now they're campaigning together. Gov Palin practically has JTP tattooed on her forehead.

Where have you been?

Dan

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That does NOT make him the centerpiece of the campaign...

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That's just baloney.

Nor does it justify Obama's despicable putdowns, nor the spying done on Obama's behalf, nor the attacks on Joe, etc. Obama is shameless.

People in this country ARE allowed to speak their mind without fear of repercussion, you know.

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OK

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He was mentioned in passing.....127 times


lololololololol

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I was replying to Dan

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You and he are two different people aren't you?

Anyway, I didn't say he was mentioned in passing, did I ?

Another distortion. Let Dan do his own distorting, He doesn't need your help.

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RE: I didn't say he was mentioned in passing, did I ?

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And you said he wasn't a centerpiece. mentioned 127 times

He was an afterthought? mentioned 127 times?

He was a innocent passerby? mentioned 127 times?

He was a guy (fill in this spot)

What part do you think he plays in the McCain campaign?

And I'm replying to you, If you reply to me...then you reply to me.

if you don't, I'll be devastated. (not really)

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You mean without fear of government persecution, don't you?

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All our action do, and should have repercussions. Some are good and some are bad. The repercussions of McCain's speaking have been visited upon poor JTP. I feel for him.

Dan

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All we have to fear is OBAMA..

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Don't blame Obama's disgusting actions on anyone but Obama.

Obama is the one who has caused his troubles. Obama is the one who has ridiculed him. Obama is the one whose drones have ILLEGALLY accessed government information on him in an effort to dig up dirt about him. Obama is the one who cannot tolerate any dissent or criticism.

Don't be an OBAMA, Dan.

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Putting it in bold face does not make it true, Ed.

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McCain didn't check the guy out. McCain didn't ask his permission. McCain thrust him and his story to the front of the political debate.

Sorry, Ed, just picture all of that being in bold face to make it seem more true to you.

Dan

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None of that has a thing to do with him being pilloried...

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NOTHING.

You are just trying to distract from Obama's deplorable behavior and that of his minions.

Fact is, you have no idea if McCain had him checked out at all. You just don't know what you are talking about.

But it is irrelevant and meaningless anyway. The guy has done nothing wrong at all. Unlike the great god Obama. Why you can't face that simple fact is beyond me.

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It had everything to do with it, Ed.

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Without McCain's rash actions, JTP fades from memory as he should have. McCain is in a snowball fight and hides behind JTP and the poor guy gets pummeled. McCain involved an innocent bystander, Ed.

Dan

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(NT) Absolute baloney

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There was no need to "check him out". The issue is Obama's

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revealing slip that he intends to implement socialism. To "spread the wealth around" via actions of the state. That had zero to do with Joe, and it is a sign of things to come that Obama had him investigated both directly and indirectly.

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As goes SE...

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So goes the nation?


Sshhhhhh!!

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There was no ''need'', true, but a

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foreseeable reaction to McCain's creation of this new campaign icon was the investigation of that icon by the press.

Dan

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And illegal access to data bases by NON-PRESS people ?

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Let's not be distracted by flying squirrels.

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You seem to have missed what I said. The issue is

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what Obama said. It is not Joe. Why did the Obama campaign go after Joe, and break the law in the process? A man of integrity deals with the issue that he created. Obama did not do that. He attacked Joe in an attempt to shift the focus away from himself.

McCain did not precipitate the attacks on Joe. Obama did that. Blaming McCain is akin to blaming a reporter who writes a story about a violent assault for the assault itself. It's amazing to see the invention of excuses and reasons for fingerpointing when it is your hero that's causing the damage.

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If you fear Obama....

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....then I guess the McCain campaign theme is working, at least on you.

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Nope...

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I have a brain and I use it.

That was a response to Dan's silliness, as you undoubtedly know.

I guess Obama's baloney has YOU in thrall. Don't look; don't think; pay no attention.

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Claims he's gonna fight for the middle class

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That middle class, they're easily mislead aren't they?

It's a good thing they're no Republicans in the middle class.

making fun of him in a snobby condescending way

I heard ya'

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I guess that it's suddenly OK to attack a private citizen

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while breaking the law to do so. On top of that, it's McCain's fault. That's rich!

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(NT) I never said it was OK, KP. Where'd you get that?

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McCain may have done him no favors

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but it wasn't McCain or his campaign that is trying to find all the discrediting dirt it can on the guy by any means fair or foul, even illegal.

So the spin of blaming McCain is not only ridiculous, it's dirty pool.

Roger

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I have no doubt Dan knows that.

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Seen it over and over again.

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It was McCain who set up the poor guy

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for the intense scrutiny that was inevitable.

I do not condone any illegal actions. Nor do I think that those actions were done at the direction of the Obama campaign.

Do you think Sen. Obama requested or directed these illegal actions, Roger?

Dan

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Did Nixon direct or request the WH Plumbers...

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to break into the DNC Headquarters in the Watergate? No. But he was held responsible for it and rightly so. Same thing here.

You've got a bunch of overzealous Obama-drones for whom the rule of law is no impediment to their goal of electing the One.

Your attempts to deflect the blame to McCain are pathetic and bogus. "Scrutiny" is not the same as attacks, ridicule (from Obama himself) and breaking the law. That is what this is about.

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