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Question

Celluar and 3g/4g repeaters, setup

by Jul 21, 2015 8:33AM PDT

I'm moving to a house in the wood. Sadly the cellular (and 3g/4g) connection is poor and sometimes doesn't work inside the house. We are using a lot of internet in the household and would be able to call people from the house.

If I'm walking 150 meter from the house the connection is quite good, we are blocked behind a small mountain.

I've no knowledge about cellular repeaters so have some questions. From the "good" location I will use an directional antenna. But having some issues on "how to think" about setup.

1.) How to connect modem
- Antenna to Coax splitter (http://www.coaxialcablesplitter.com/), one cable to 4G modem and one cable to repeater then to transmitter antenna.
- Antenna to repeater, then coax splitter to 4G modem and transmitter antenna.
- One antenna to repeater to 4G modem, and one antenna to another repeater to transmitter antenna.

2.) 4G data, what is best? Does the repeater do anything?
- Antenna to 4G modem
- Antenna to repeater to 4G modem

3.) Long cable or transmitt signal from receiver antenna?
- 150 meter coax cable down to the house. Repeater then I put a transmitter antenna inside the house.
- 5 meter coax to repeater, 5 meter coax to an directional antenna (transmitter) that I point towards the house direction.


What I think I will do so far is.

directional antenna receiver -> repeater -> coax splitter ->
coax 1 -> 4g modem -> 150 meter ethernet cable to house
coax 2 -> directional antenna transmitter

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The thing is
by Forum moderator Jul 21, 2015 10:14AM PDT
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Question options answer, please =)
by kidkic Jul 21, 2015 11:02AM PDT

Understand that's different to each place. But to get a better grip on the tech, is it possible to get answers on the 3 questions, each has multiple selections and wondering for the best option.

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Nod to Wilson
by r. proffitt Forum moderator Jul 21, 2015 1:06PM PDT

They do this a lot. Here I've only given them the problem, buy the gear and set it up. To design this is pretty expensive. Notice Wilson's return policy yet?

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Wrong country
by kidkic Jul 22, 2015 1:23AM PDT

They doesn't ship to Europe.

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And that's possibly GSM.
by r. proffitt Forum moderator Jul 22, 2015 8:16AM PDT

You are now on the hunt for companies like Wilson but in your country.

PS. Adding this with the new edit feature.

I see you asked for best again. Sadly this area is far too expensive to get the engineering team on site to survey then design a solution. That runs close to some million USD here so folk tend to try this and that such as Wilson and to get to best is going to be expensive. That is, you are back to site surveys, designs and reports.

Post was last edited on July 22, 2015 8:18 AM PDT

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3-9 GHz too high for cable
by Jul 21, 2015 12:53PM PDT

If I'm getting your idea that you plan to run cable from the receiver over 150m of cable, it won't work.
What you need is a basic receiver for outdoor use, run power and ethernet to some waterproof box next to the receiver. Even lower frequency wi-fi from the tenna is going to die across 10m of cable and you can probably buy the entire receiver for the price of 150m of high end cable.
Another way to go is just get an outdoor broadband repeater where it can boost signal to where your devices can pick it up on there own if its not too far. FCC rules.

There are two basic types. One is specific to your carrier and is mini cell tower. The other is just an amplifier like a radio station booster. You will need to monkey with its location for best results.
The cheapest and what I would do:
-> directional antenna receiver (cantenna over dish) -> waterproof box with 4g reciever/router
-> ethernet -> switch/wi-fi router in the house
Sorry no 4g in the house this way. Its slow anyway.
You can run up to 1000' of CAT5 for 100BT ethernet. You can't get much more than 10m for high freq antenna. Even at 10m you would need an inline amp, wrestle with SWR impedence, etc...

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thanks for tip
by kidkic Jul 22, 2015 1:29AM PDT

Thanks for the answers. So not using 150m of coax even with booster. Then I will use 150m of ethernet cable for the 4G. And in the house I can use a Wifi router. As I understand it you aint against long ethernet, just long coax. Then still issue with the calls.

Do you have knowledge to answer my 1,2,3 points? With each point I have alternatives, which alternative is best.

Note; I'm not living in USA.

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