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cdrive partitioning

Jul 18, 2007 10:25PM PDT

Hello everyone, I bought a new computer with 2 75gb wd raptors in a raid 0 configuration. I'd like to put the operating system on a partition by itself. The only people on this computer is myself and my wife. The rest of the hard drives will be partitioned for games (g), programs(p) and storage (s). My question is, how big should the c partition be. Would 20gb be ok or do I need more or less. Thanks

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(NT) For just the OS, 5 is sufficient.
Jul 18, 2007 10:29PM PDT
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Personally I would just use folders
Jul 18, 2007 10:35PM PDT

I have separate folders for Games, My own programs, Music, Videos, etc, and they all share the C drive with XP.

It works just as well as far as I can see.

Mark

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cdrive partitioning
Jul 18, 2007 10:52PM PDT

Thanks Mark, Right now as I haven't set up the new computer, I have another internal harddrive that I have the games (60gb) on, plus partitions for photos, backups etc. The programs currently reside on c drive. You think it'd be ok to set up the new computer as I have the old one? I heard somewhere where you'd get a performance increase if you put the os on it's own partition. That's probably not true or not even much if any of an increase.

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Not really any difference
Jul 19, 2007 2:42AM PDT

There are experts here who will tell you better, but logically it seems to me that different partitions don't make any difference.

The only difference it could make is if the disk head, the part that floats over the surface of the drive and reads/writes data, accesses different partitions more quickly than accessing different folders. But that is not so. The hard disk spins at a constant speed, and the disk head travels back and forward also at a constant speed. So, assuming you install Windows on drive C, whether or not there are folders or partitions for the other software and data makes no difference it seems to me.

Using different hard drives is ok, and as hard drive capacity gets bigger year by year you can save all your heavy files, eg videos, music, and all your personal documents onto a different drive. That leaves the C drive uncluttered. But as the C drive is also likely to be large it would be a shame to waste that space. So why not use it as the default drive for where all the programs are to be installed.

That's just my view and I am willing to be persuaded otherwise, Happy

Mark

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Kind of a waste
Jul 19, 2007 3:24AM PDT

Without getting into the details of it all, there is absolutely NO benefit to be had by putting games and programs on another partition. If you ever have to format or reinstall, you'll have to reinstall all your programs anyway. Storing documents on another partition is of some value, but that's about it.

If it were Linux we were talking about, you could do what you wanted, and more, but Windows is designed not to allow this.

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cdrive partitioning
Jul 19, 2007 4:12AM PDT

Thanks Jackson, as I said before it'll be 2 75gb drives, so it is 150gb and that's plenty. I have acronis and it works great as I haven't had to reinstall the operating system in about 4 yrs (the systems 5yrs old). I guess I'm kindof vague on the raid thing. I suppose windows views it as one hard drive. Anyway I think I'll use the folder idea from Mark. Thanks

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i missed that about Raid 0
Jul 19, 2007 5:16AM PDT

Sorry murman I didn't see that about Raid 0. It makes no difference to partitioning but it does make a difference to storage capacity and vulnerability.

There are a number of Raid formats, (definitions and brief explanations at Wikipedia), but for most purposes the two most common are Raid 0 and Raid 1

Raid 0, is two disks where data is written to, and read from, alternate disks. So if you have a file that is 2 bytes big, 1 byte will be saved on the first disk, and the 2nd byte will be saved on the 2nd disk. This means faster writing to and faster reading from the hard disk. The two disks are treated as one disk. Faster, but if one disk fails, you lose everything!

Raid 1, is two disks where each time data is written to the disk, it is written to both disks at the same time. This is slower than Raid 0, (but no slower than normal single disks), but it has an important feature. If one disk fails, you lose nothing. The Disk Operating System can still work just off the one disk. (This assumes the disk failure is not catastrophic, eg breaking up and damaging the other disk). The two disks are still treated as one, but they back each other up.

So if you are having two 75GB drives in Raid 0 format, you are not getting 150GB of storage. You are only getting 75GB of storage. The same applies to Raid 1 but that doesn't apply to your proposed set up.

Be careful then. If you need more than 75GB hard disk storage, you will need larger capacity hard disks if you are sticking with Raid, or you could add an additional internal drive, non-raid, for storage.

I use Raid 0 myself, and I am beginning to worry. My system is over 4 years old now, and the likelihood of disk failure grows. I use an external hard disk backup, and I have all my important files backed up to CD and DVD.

Mark

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Correction to Raid 0...
Jul 19, 2007 8:50PM PDT

I said that two 75GB disks in Raid 0 format is just 75GB in total storage space.

That's incorrect. With Raid 0 the two 75GB disks give you 150 GB total storage. However it still applies that losing one disk means you lose everything.

Mark

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cdrrive partitioning
Jul 19, 2007 9:10PM PDT

Sorry I didn't write back yesterday, but I was moping about thinking I'd messed up when I ordered it with the raid 0 stuff. I knew you'd lose everything if one went out and I was ready to gamble on that as I wanted the speed of the 10000rpm drives. What a releif. I'm still happy with the decision. I'm just going to put the games as you suggested into a folder and back all of it up with acronis and put it onto the other internal drive and also an external one that I have. Thanks a bunch for clarafying the the total drive capacity for me. Have a good one

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Yes, just to say
Jul 19, 2007 9:39PM PDT

that I've had no problems with my Raid 0 setup so far. It's just a consideration you need to have.

Good luck with your new computer, and I'm sure you will have a great time with it.

Mark