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by ct3000 / April 5, 2005 5:10 AM PDT

Im looking for a new computer case and cant make up my mind i really like raidmax's designs but feel the cases lack in the cooling department i was wondering if anyone would be so kind as to help me make up my mind any suggestions or direction to a better case would be more than appriciated


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by Willy / April 5, 2005 5:53 AM PDT
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TRy: then google for anymore. I strongly suggest whatever you get that comes with a p/s, usually they are 300-350W rated, these aren't enough even though the case maybe OK. Truly shop around for the case then get yet another 400W+ better p/s unti, its a very good start. Costs more but its a foundation of your system. Plus, most decent cases have extra fan mounting, so buy extra fans if need be if not aleady installed. Also, the bigger the case, the better as you have more air circultaing, room for upgrades and dodads they may come down the pike.

tada -----Willy Happy

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by a50 / April 6, 2005 7:23 AM PDT
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How many fans do you recommend?

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Fans in your computer
by damasta55r / April 6, 2005 1:55 PM PDT
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FOr a gamer, you've got to get a power supply with a fan, a case fan, a processor fan, and a graphics card with a cooling fan. A side fan is optional and will require modification of the case. BTX chassis has a fan in the front. SO i recommend at least a power supply with a fan because most psu over 300W has one and 300W is recommended for even low-end comps. A processor fan is required and comes with most pros so no worries. As for a case fan, optional.

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ok, again, i set this straight for you
by ozos / April 10, 2005 12:33 PM PDT
In reply to: Fans in your computer

A) a gfx only needs a fan if it's a high heatoutput core
you can use an FX 5200 which only requires passive cooling, and introduces less heat due to that, fans don't increase performance, if the gfx card has a fan on it, than it needs it, if it doesn't, than it probably does not need a fan (but if your OC'ing a gfx card that came w/o a fan, i'd suggest getting it a new cooler with a fan)

B) a 300W PSU is WEAK, and under the requirements of most graphics cards, i would suggest 450W or more from aa reputable company, meaning 24A on the 12v line or better, or dual 12v lines at around 15-16A each

C) i suggest 2 case fans, in any configuration, as long as they aren't right by each other (if one is in a door and the other is in the back, that is fine, if their stacked, you need a fan away from them, to create air flow)

D) a CPU fan isn't just something to over-look, you should have a quality HSF, not the one that comes with it


1. The case must meet the ATX form factor requirement, even if you have a Micro-ATX board, as a full ATX case allows a larger area for heat to dissipate

2. The case must have at least 2 fan mounts (if it includes fans that is better) and have fans in those mounts, they must not be on top of each other, they must be in different places to either cooling critical parts (i.e. a tunnel right over the CPU) or at oppsoite sides to create air flow

3. The case must have a front fan, and a rear fan

4. The fans must be of high quality, meaning 30 CFM or better

5. The Power Supply must meet the ATX requirement for your hardware (either 20-pin or 24-pin) and must supply in the range of 24A on the 12v Rail for Pentium 4 and Athlon64, and in the range of 22A or more for AthlonXP and Sempron

6. The power supply must come from a good manufacturer, such as Enermax, OCZ, Antec, TTGI Superflower, PC Power & Cooling, Fortron Source Power, Sparkle Power, Zippy/EMACs

7. The power supply must have 2 FANS! no quesions asked (99% of all of the above's PSU's have 2 fans...if it's a micro-ATX PSU for a lower power or SFF system, 1 fan is fine...BUT the rest of the system must be low end/well cooled)

8. the PSU fan mustn't do most of the cooling, meaning a rear exhaust fan is required

if the case meets most of that
go for it
don't buy Case/PSU bundles, the included PSU's ALWAYS suck (if you bought a good case and a good PSU in a bundle (say a Xaser V and an Antec NeoPower) it'd cost like $300+)

and as an afternote
Thermaltake's PSU's are OK if your system is medium range, and that doesn't mean a 5950U is medium range, it eats up power, i mean medium range from it's generation (so a 5700U is medium range, a 5950U is high range, as it still needs a heck of a lot of power)

Thermaltake's PSU's are usually reliable, but should not be put in a system that is OC'ed or tweaked heavily...but they are decent for stock running (to replace OEM units from HP, Gateway or eMachines...Dell is excluded, as their PSU's are from PC Power & Cooling, which is the best of the best (Dell's OEM PSU's are actually pretty nice, their just really low wattage (it's a really well made 300W it can't do much, it's just gonna last for ever, not being able to power much)

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Case least 2 and then optionable
by Willy / April 10, 2005 12:46 PM PDT
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Sorry for the late reply....

Just case fans, period you can get by using (2), two fans. They should be located in front and back, the frt. being low while the rear fan is high. I exclude any mention of any other fan as I'm talking only case fans. You have the option to install/modify for the installation of a side(side cover) or top of case(blow hole) fan(s). Alot depends on the use of the fans plus the routing of cables, harness, and wraps to better allow air circulation for best operation. Size is another matter, but typical fans are in the 90mm range for case fans, while 120mm is as large as you can go, but I'm sure bigger can be had to the crafty user.

tada -----Willy Happy

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Go to for wide
by damasta55r / April 5, 2005 11:32 AM PDT
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variety of cases.

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by jcd / April 11, 2005 1:24 AM PDT
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Antec P160
by theding0 / April 13, 2005 7:50 AM PDT
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I've got one of these, and they're pretty nice. Get it through
Case is aluminum (except the front bezel), has temperature readouts on the front top of the case, stealthed drive bays, and can be assembled and disassembled without a screwdrive. Everything has its own trays (including motherboards, hard drives, CD drives, floppy drives) and comes with 2 120mm fans (on opposite sides of the case)
it is quite roomy and relatively quiet (HD trays have rubber dampeners on them) can find reviews online with better descriptions than I can give, but its as good as any Lian-li I've seen.. and slightly cheaper. Lian-li's are very nice, but you pay through the nose for them.

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