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Caravan IS an invasion...just ask Mexicans

Nov 19, 2018 12:13PM PST

and not just according to Trump anymore....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpiPzUv2YPA

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/10/23/exclusive-ken-cuccinelli-states-can-stop-migrant-caravan-invasion-with-constitutional-war-powers/

https://dailycaller.com/2018/11/19/tijuana-protest-migrant-caravan-invasion/

There are other stories available, but evidently it's one thing to 'help' the caravan as it's PASSING thru, but a totally NEW thing when thousands are literally parked in one place for what could easily be months. What's that saying again? Oh, yeah....ANYWHERE BUT IN MY BACKYARD. Welcome to liberalism at its finest.

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BUILD THAT WALL!!!!.........BUILD THAT WALL!!!!
Nov 19, 2018 12:46PM PST

PASS THAT BILL THAT WILL PAY FOR THE WALL!!!!

Welcome to liberalism at its finest.

Conservatism?...Making promises that other people will honour?

Who's gonna pay?

MEXICO.

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Yes, there are other stories available.
Nov 19, 2018 12:47PM PST

Many of which discuss and show ordinary Mexicans helping their Latino brothers with food, clothing, transportation ...
Many of which discuss the Mexican government's offers of asylum and such.

Sorry, no links.

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Like I said....
Nov 19, 2018 1:58PM PST

helping as they were passing thru and not lingering for longer than a day or two is one thing....piling up by the thousands and eating up normal local resources for months is something different.

And, yes, Mexico has offered refuge/asylum and jobs....and MOST have turned their noses up at it because they want to be here in the States instead (especially CA because of its new sanctuary status and all those freebee benefits because if they can get into CA, they won't be turned over to ICE and in a few months will travel out of CA and go somewhere else to 'blend in'). However, International Law dictates that if you are seeking asylum and you get into the FIRST country that recognizes asylum Int'l laws LIKE MEXICO, you HAVE to accept it and not snub it in favor of where you would RATHER be.

Of course you have no links.....no surprise there.

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No links means you don't have to accept.
Nov 19, 2018 2:59PM PST

Win for you, win for you, right? Grin

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No. It means
Nov 19, 2018 3:22PM PST

you are a lazy poster/replier. You make comments/statements often with nothing to back it up (unless it's JW business). I take your credibility with less than a grain of salt.....such as when you complain to James about 'slandering Jehovah' but won't admit to your slandering/libeling me.

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Look carefully.
Nov 19, 2018 4:46PM PST

Links in some posts, none in others. Accident? Pattern?
/s/ The Lazy Slanderer

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MY posts are news...
Nov 20, 2018 2:14AM PST

whereas YOURS are nothing but bait comments, including passages to your fanaticism....

Most times, when I don't include a link it's because it's REPEATED information that ALREADY had posted links and I refuse to do searches over and over again for the benefit of others who already have HAD them to look at. You, rarely, if ever, post a link to anything you state unless it's about JW stuff and even then you rarely do and instead post a letter/number as if it's OUR job to figure out what you are saying.

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Toni, you make so many demands.
Nov 20, 2018 6:54AM PST

How many of them are satisfied?
Would you get better responses by asking politely?
When you get a response, do you show appreciation for it by taking it in?
Do you ever refuse to consider a response by labeling it as fanaticism before you read it?
If "letters and numbers" come from the most widely distributed book in history, why does it upset you to be assumed to have some knowledge of it?
If a book has lasted that long, is it possible that it has some value? At least as much value as a Breitbart?
And lighten up on the CAPS.

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Show me in my post where I
Nov 20, 2018 10:12AM PST

demanded ANYTHING.....I made STATEMENTS that didn't even ASK you to respond to them. I don't think you know the English language very well....or least not well enough to comprehend half of what you read to know the difference.

YOUR post, on the other hand, is, once again, full of babble. I never said the BIBLE doesn't have value....I HAVE indicated that you are fascinated by YOUR version of it to the point that you try to use it exclusively as your 'debate' source when NOBODY here even seems to be interested in it, and yet you keep coming like the proverbial train wreck for nearly every thread like clockwork. It's almost like the liberals calling conservatives 'racist' every chance they get....it gets used so often that people are getting deaf to it and your responses are just skimmed over now because it's expected. Try actually CONTRIBUTING to a discussion for a change and perhaps you'll again be taken seriously.

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Not factual, as evidenced by my posts:
Nov 20, 2018 1:45PM PST

> "I HAVE indicated that you are fascinated by YOUR version of it to the point that you try to use it exclusively as your 'debate' source"
Fact: 'Our version' is no different from the others you've failed to read.
Fact: Not "exclusively". I use several. IMO ours is the best.

> "I never said the BIBLE doesn't have value..."
Fact: Your [in]actions speak for you. You show ignorance of its contents with every post.
Your ignorance is wilful, as you refuse to read it in any version. [James doesn't like ours, either, so his quotes come from others. Even though he has one of ours. Fine with me. You could do the same but for your wilful ignorance.]
Example from right here: "Try actually CONTRIBUTING to a discussion for a change", after pointing out that I often use the Bible to respond. To you that isn't "CONTRIBUTING". Did I mention it's the most widely distributed book in the world?

Lighten up, period.

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Invasion doesn't necessarily imply by armed means.
Nov 19, 2018 12:54PM PST

in·va·sion
/inˈvāZHən/
noun
noun: invasion; plural noun: invasions

an instance of invading a country or region with an armed force.
"the Allied invasion of Normandy"
synonyms: occupation, capture, seizure, annexation, annexing, takeover; More
storming, incursion, attack, assault
"the invasion of the island"
antonyms: withdrawal
an incursion by a large number of people or things into a place or sphere of activity.
"stadium guards are preparing for another invasion of fans"
synonyms: influx, inundation, flood, rush, torrent, deluge, avalanche, juggernaut
"an invasion of tourists"
an unwelcome intrusion into another's domain.
"random drug testing of employees is an unwarranted invasion of privacy"
synonyms: violation, infringement, interruption, intrusion, encroachment, disturbance, disruption, breach
"an invasion of my privacy"
antonyms: respect

Origin
late Middle English: from late Latin invasio(n-), from the verb invadere (see invade).

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Or, one quote from another authority.
Nov 19, 2018 1:12PM PST

“You must not oppress a foreign resident. You know how it feels to be a foreigner, because you were foreign residents in the land of Egypt." Ex 23:9.
Applies to everyone except my friend Ms Bullhorse. Happy

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they aren't "residents"
Nov 19, 2018 1:28PM PST

We have many legal immigrants who qualify as "residents". None of them are in danger of being shipped back to former homeland. Don't twist the scriptures.

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As always, the one verse is just part of the story.
Nov 19, 2018 3:02PM PST

I'm sorry. I'm used to discussing things with people who aware of the whole episode. Here's a clue: Just how did they get to be "residents"?

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Another clue:
Nov 19, 2018 3:05PM PST

The USC et al. have legal definitions of "resident" and related words. Under Israel's Law...?

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They are residents
Nov 19, 2018 3:25PM PST

in their OWN country....they are GUESTS here IF they applied to come LEGALLY and stay GUESTS until they become LEGAL CITIZENS. If they come here ILLEGALLY, they need to go back home where they are still RESIDENTS.

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James claims some connection with the Bible.
Nov 19, 2018 4:50PM PST

You claim no connection.
So, your point in responding to me?

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You asked about 'resident' definitions...I gave it to you.
Nov 20, 2018 2:16AM PST

If you don't like the fact that I, personally, replied to you instead of James, take it up with the Moderators.....are you looking for some sort of CNET restraining order now?

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cnet has restraining orders???
Nov 20, 2018 5:33AM PST

Had I only known!!!
/s/ The lazy, slandering fanatic

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RE: ANYWHERE BUT IN MY BACKYARD.
Nov 19, 2018 1:06PM PST

I take it, YOU are happy, THEY are parked in Mexico?

Send American troops back from the border? Stand down?

Don't look a gift horse in the mouth.


Welcome to liberalism at its finest.

So, now you are a Liberal?

You don't want them in YOUR backyard...you want them in Mexico's backyard?

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You're damned straight
Nov 19, 2018 2:00PM PST

I don't want ILLEGALS in my backyard or ANYWHERE ELSE in my country. You want them? Send them a plane ticket so they don't even have to pass THRU my country, thank you, and Happy Thanksgiving....you can be like the Pilgrims and Indians and share your feast with them.

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Re: illegals
Nov 19, 2018 3:01PM PST

The solution is simple: legalize them.

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Even simpler....NO....send them home
Nov 19, 2018 3:28PM PST

It's way cheaper to mass deport them on chartered planes back to their homes than to support them, educate them, give them lawyers at taxpayer expense, et al.

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we will gladly let YOU do that
Nov 19, 2018 3:45PM PST

We could begin transportation to your part of the world fairly quickly I assume.

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Re: migrants
Nov 20, 2018 5:02AM PST

Excerpt from the United Nations “New York Declaration for Refugees and Migrants” (19 September 2016) http://www.un.org/en/ga/search/view_doc.asp?symbol=A/RES/71/1&=E%20 :

21. Underlining the importance of a comprehensive approach to the issues
involved, we will ensure a people-centred, sensitive, humane, dignified, gender-
responsive and prompt reception for all persons arriving in our countries, and
particularly those in large movements, whether refugees or migrants. We will also
ensure full respect and protection for their human rights and fundamental freedoms.

We'll gladly give the honor of doing this to America first. Isn't that what Trump wants: America first?

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Leave it to New York to come up with crap
Nov 20, 2018 10:15AM PST

that eventually rolls downhill...…..and when ANY politician uses the word 'comprehensive' hide your wallet cuz it's gonna be rat-arsed expensive for everybody BUT them.

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On 9-11 I was disappointed
Nov 20, 2018 1:47PM PST

the planes hit the WTC instead of the UN building.

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(NT) Islam will also be sorry.
Nov 20, 2018 5:45PM PST
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(NT) True
Nov 21, 2018 12:39AM PST
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How does True
Nov 21, 2018 12:57AM PST

in SE become 1 in the Real Time Forum James ?