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Car engine diagnosis device

Dear Experts,

I'm totally new on engine diagnosis devices & how to do the task. I have 3 cars of Toyota, Honda and Nissan brand and running a car renting business in a small scale. Now a days I'm regularly facing different types of related with engine & mechanical faults(not related to engine) Everytime the repairing shop charges a good amount for scanning purpose. The mechanic says its an expensive process to do the scan. After searching on net i come to know the reality.

Please help me by giving a link to buy a suitable device for scanning to locate the problems.
I think its an OBDII adapter, its one end will be connected to the car's obd port and another end with the laptop to do the scan.

I dont know whether the software will come with the port or not ? If i need to buy the software seperately, please suggest me the links of some good software.

There might be some good quality scanning software free on net, please give me the link to download.

Thanks for your kind support.

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Clarification Request
Santro ZipDrive 2003 OBD

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Hi I have Santro Zipdrive LS 2003 model with OBD port. in which 1,4,7,15,& 16 pins are used. Can anybody will let me know the compatible OBD device for same.

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OBD functionality

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From where i can get the PID based or service based programs,

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I have an Innova brand

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I'd say it's mid range priced but you can get these for under 30 bucks. They plug into a standard OBD2 port and are very easy to use. Some will also connect to one's smart phone via blue tooth or such but I don't have such a phone and don't care for that feature. What they'll provide you with is stored codes and/or pending codes. The codes don't exactly pinpoint a bad component but will help lead you in the right direction for troubleshooting. Most will also allow you to clear stored codes so you can see if they come back or not. Knowing the code and to what it's pointing is helpful if you cannot or don't want to fix it yourself. You'll have more piece of mind knowing that a mechanic isn't giving you false information in order to pad the bill.

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Here's the one I bought. It was under 20 bucks.

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OBD

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Hi, Cimera; Most auto parts stores will scan the codes and give you a print out of the readings for free. That being said, then what do you do once you have the codes? The codes tell you that a particular system is seeing a problem. For example, say you get an EGR code. This does NOT mean that you have a faulty EGR valve. This, simply, is telling you that the EGR system is not functioning properly. You must then diagnose the fault. Could be a faulty valve, a faulty sensor, or a plugged passageway. Same with all codes. The public thinks that the code reader is a 'crystal ball' that tells all. Not the case. Don't waste your money on a code reader. A scanner (Snap-On) will read codes and contains diagnostic software if you want to spend $4000.00. And that is not always 100%. Todays cars are getting more and more technical. Sorry, but that's the truth.
Loren

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Thanks for that. Let me add this.

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I clued a friend into that 13 dollar OBD for smart phones and he's been thrilled over being able to glean views about what areas are complaining. He feels a lot more confident as he takes it in for service and in two cases he was able to Google more about the code and find a discussion about what to try.

However I can see this creating trouble for some shops as they have to explain more about the repairs they want to perform.

Let me share a more personal reason I picked up the small bluetooth OBD. I own a Nissan Leaf and with the OBD I can use LeafSpy to peak inside the battery pack for more details. This way I can see if there are troubles there and head in for a new battery pack or not. My Leaf is at 33K miles and was out in the hot desert for the first 30K so it's not at full bars.

The warranty is great and here's hoping the battery will drop one more bar.

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Best OBD 2

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Dear landdchamp, than a lot for your reply. Now o fully understand what actually can be done by an obd device. Its just to get an idea on where the fault occured, not pin point the exact fault but give an idea where to investigate. Its enough for me.

Would you please suggest me a good brand along with its software to scan the engine by smart phone? I mean there are lots of brands and among those which one is better ? Which covers most of the common brands of cars ?

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Best obd device with aupported software

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Dear All,

Thanks a lot for your valuable explanation and let me know the detail about obd device.Its a great forum with so many helpful people. Anyway,

I found there are obd1 & obd2...what is the difference between these 2 ? Is the obd 2 is latest version?

Does the software comes with the device ? Or i have to purchase/collect the software seperately ? And finally, please suggeat me the BEST DEVICE SUITABLE FOR MOST OF COMMON BRAND VEHICLES.

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Sorry but this is a never ending search.

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I'm going to stop here and share I own the 13 dollar bluetooth thing and a standalone 28 dollar reader. If I need more than this, I go to the shop where I get my work done.

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Obd hw & sw

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Bro please just let me have a clear idea on - is the software comes with the obd 2 device ? Or i have to purchase seperately ? I heard about some free software ,are they good enough to work with different brand cars ? Or i should buy a software ?

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My opinion

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Being able to connect to a smart phone sounds cool but I prefer an electrically connected stand alone device. Smart phones come and go and there's no telling how long support will last or whether a new phone will work with the necessary app. Some of the stand alone types can be updated but, just like anything in this age of technology, consider these to not have the Craftsman life time guarantee. As for OBD1 or 2, read up about it but you'll probably want the OBD2 as the other is quite old and limited. My own device is an Innova 3100. It can connect to a PC via USB to update but the software needed is only available on line. It's suited me fine for the 3 cars I've used it on. Two are Toyotas and one is a Honda. It's detected all 3 of them. I only have personal experience with that one brand so it would be inappropriate of me to make a selection for another person but I'm not unhappy with this one. I made my selection by searching online for reviews and prices. Those of us who don't do such diagnostics for a living are not qualified to give expert advice. Look online for reviews, look at your wallet, and between you and your leather goods, make your choice. Good luck.

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For 13 bucks you get no software. Or rather

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Your choice of software. This may be unacceptable to those that want the "best' solution. I will share that these do work to give you a great view into OBD (I won't debate 1 or 2.) And the standalone unit is nice to have. If you want to go professional you are into thousands of bucks so that is the best solution but will you buy it?

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I have bought a great one

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I have bought Launch CR4001 code reader before. It is well worth buying because of the high quality. It works on my Toyota perfectly. In fact, the design is considerate – the cable attached to the device and the other end of the cable plugged into the OBD port on my vehicle. This one is truly a simple scanner with some basic functions. It’s capable of reading and clearing codes, reading live data, freeze frame and readiness status! I can easily check if the engine emissions reach the standard.
I don’t have to always go to automotive services cause this tool can help me solve many small problems. What satisfied me a lot is the metal dome designed keys which are sensitive and easy to operate with great feelings. The instruction described on the user manual is clearly, which are really easy to understand. You don't need another software, just pulg it and then use it. So i think it is suitable to you. Maybe you can have a try. This is its link: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06WP4KY24

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Launch CR4001

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Hi, Amanda; Again, this device does the same thing that many auto parts stores do for free. But, it's your wallet.

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OBD

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Hi, thanks for your reminding. However it would be inconvenient if we get our car to auto parts store once our cars have a small problem. It will waste lots of time. Why don't we spend little money on buying obd to solve these problems by ourselves?

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A User's Experience- OBDCAN ELITE

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Do you have a car or a truck manufactured in 1996 or later? I bought one from Amazon one year ago. I think this item is good for me and I want to show you my experience.
If you feel like doing some maintenance on your own, save money and time for some other meaningful things, then you really need a companion- OBDCAN ELITE. With full OBD functions, it can easily determine the cause of the check engine light. I/M monitor readiness test. Can turn off the MIL (check engine light) and other status lights, as well as view freeze frame data. More importantly,it supports turning off malfunction indicator Light (MIL) and ABS/SRS warning lights, clears codes and resets monitors.
When the dashboard displays a light, there may be something wrong with your car. Although your car still can run, there must be factors affecting your car performance or putting you in danger later. However, there is no need to have your car repaired in dealership or even in auto service center at some expenses. You absolutely can do it yourself if you purchase the OBDCAN ELITE. It will help you detect your car with simple manipulation and provide you with the trouble codes, codes definition. What you need to do is to hook it up to your car and press the buttons. Then, you can turn off the warning light with the tool after you complete the maintenance.
These are my experience and feelings, I hope this can help you.

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How to check the car engine oil level?

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1.the method of checking the oil level with oil dipstick
First of all, if the car is running, stop the car first and shut down the engine for 10 minutes or so. This will return all the oil to the oil pan. With dipstick, see the specific method of oil dipstick (1) pull out the oil dipstick. Be careful. If you want to check the oil quantity, it must be in the case of vehicle cooling. If you just drive back, or the engine is running, it will be useless to see this. (2) cleaning up oil stains. After pulling out the oil dipstick for the first time, wipe the dipstick blade with a clean paper and then insert it. The second time you pull out the oil dipstick to see the amount of oil on the scale (3). If the oil is between the upper limit and the lower limit, it means that the oil quantity is normal. The so-called upper and lower limits generally have scales, which can be clearly seen.
2, the method of checking the oil level without the oil dipstick
The car without the oil dipstick is generally an electronic gauge. The cars of each brand show that the small sense of the same is generally added with the oil, the level of the oil will be shown as idle speed is running a little while.

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An Useful Antel Tool

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Hi Camera, my family have 3 cars. I have the same situation as you before. I was exhausted to handle car issues with the car repairing shop and every time it costs a lot. Fortunately, I finally got an OBD2 scanner "maxicheck pro" from obdprice. God! It's awesome! It solves most issues on my cars! It automatically links up with the control module by connecting to the vehicle's OBD II port. Supports to read and clear ABS trouble codes, calibrakes yaw rate sensors, as well as having bi-directional control, opens and closes the eletronic brake caplipers, DPF service and regeneration, turn off the ECU and brake warning light and other things. Now I am confidently to find out the problem before I take my car to the mechanic. It saves me time and money! God! Love it. It's worth investing!

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