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Canoscan FS2710 xp and partitioned derive

by Fat Fingers Oct 3, 2008 5:12AM PDT

Hi there

I just want to try out an idea here and if it gets shot down in flames so be it, at least I'll have found out not to try it before learning the hard way.

I've got a ton of old APS film I want to convert to digital. I've already got a Canoscan 8800f which is great for scanning 35mm and slides as well as being a good flatbed scanner but it won't do APS.It turns out that a friend has an old, disused Canoscan FS2710 that he's prepared to do a bit of bartering for.It does 35mm and APS and has pretty good resolution too so it should be perfect except that it runs on win98 and SCSI and my computer is XP pro.

I've looked around the various forums and have found a few solutions but they either involve opening up the computer which I have vowed never to do again unless absolutely necessary or downloading and fiddling about with various drivers and complicated looking,fussy little tweaks to get the thing to run through a USB-SCSI adaptor but I haven't seen anyone suggest partitioning the C drive and installing Win98 to one partition and then installing the drivers to that so I can plug the scanner in using something like the "Belkin USB SCSI Adapter With Termpower" which allegedly can be used to "Connect SCSI peripherals to your computer with USB!"

I am only a very junior geek, if there is something glaringly obviously wrong with this idea I need telling.

My old Win98 computer is at the back of a cupboard somewhere ,it is so ancient and feeble in resources I doubt it could cope with anything as "new fangled" as an APS scanner but I do at leat have the win98 disc and plenty of drive space and ram on my current computer.

Please someone tell me if this is a stupid idea or even if it can be done at all.

I will be trying to do all this on Dell Inspiron 530s on XP Pro

2.67 gigahertz Intel Core2 Duo
64 kilobyte primary memory cache
4096 kilobyte secondary memory cache
1496.70 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
854.34 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space
3072 Megabytes Installed Memory

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How I solved this.
by r. proffitt Forum moderator Oct 3, 2008 6:05AM PDT

First the USB SCSI adapter is dead on arrival so I will not be addressing why it's DOA or why it won't work. I will not write (waste) another word.

Let me share how I fixed this issue for another friend. I told them to get on FREECYCLE and want for someone to give them a newer scanner. The next week they had a nice new USB scanner and was up and scanning.

For you I give the same advice.
Bob

PS. The fire extinguisher is located by the garage door.

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having said that
by Fat Fingers Oct 3, 2008 7:08AM PDT

Thanks for the free advice but I'm getting it anyway.It's not really costing me anything.

Why won't the USB SCSI adapter not work?

Maybe someone else would like to explain.

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Why won't the USB SCSI adapter not work?
by r. proffitt Forum moderator Oct 3, 2008 9:41PM PDT

Sorry for the typo above, I meant "wait for" someone to post a freebie on freecycle.
Bob

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I gathered that
by Fat Fingers Oct 3, 2008 10:06PM PDT

Actually I might just wait for someone to answer my question, do you mind moving over so someone else can have a go?

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Sure.
by r. proffitt Forum moderator Oct 3, 2008 10:19PM PDT

But it won't get the scanner to work on that usb device. I was trying to save you the effort. I do know that many want it to work but since there is no scanner driver that works outside of the Linux efforts why are you so bent on getting something to work that I've watched 100s of people try and fail?

Just wondering.
Bob

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you may have noticed
by Fat Fingers Oct 5, 2008 3:12AM PDT

that this was quite a detailed question, I'm not asking only about this particular adapter but about finding a way to get this particular scanner to work.You think it's a waste of your time to tell me why the adapter won't work, so don't waste your time, I'm sure it's very valuable, leave it to someone else.

Telling me to just wait until a free scanner turns up on Freecycle is just plain fatuous.I don't know where you live but around here people don't give that sort of stuff away, anyhow, I've already been offered this in return for a few litres of homebrew so it seems sensible to look at the options available.

And are the snide comments about typos necessary?

After a little further search however, I see that others have been able to run scanners like this using a USB / SCSI adapter.

http://www.digicaminfo.btinternet.co.uk/filmscanning.htm

So it seems like you are wrong.

You might also have noticed that the question was about rather more than just a USB/SCSI adapter.The scanner comes with an SCSI card so I could perhaps just put that in my computer, if it's possible.Maybe it isn't but you don't want to waste your time explaining why.

I also ask if it's possible to install Win98 to a separate partition on my C drive and install the scanner to that.

But again, maybe you just don't want to waste your time.

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"install Win98 to a separate partition on my C drive and ins
by r. proffitt Forum moderator Oct 5, 2008 6:03AM PDT

"install Win98 to a separate partition on my C drive and install the scanner to that."

That's easy to do. Read http://www.petri.co.il/install_windows_98_after_windows_xp.htm

As to the USB SCSI thing, no one I know has got it to work. Yes, I do see some post success but until I see it working I'm calling it a dead end, don't waste your time when free scanners are available.

Remember this is all volunteer, peer to peer support. Hope you can use the above link.
Bob

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Possible solutions...I'm gonna try.
by jbkirkpatrick Feb 28, 2009 2:03AM PST

I've an old 2710 too I want to use...I found this at "http://www.pcreview.co.uk/forums/thread-1937155.php".

I got the following instructions from Canon:

" Thank you for your e-mail regarding your Canon CanoScan
FS2710 Scanner.
We are sorry to hear you are experiencing problems with your Canoscan
FS2710. Please be advised that to run the FS2710 on Windows XP you will need
to download and install the following:

The latest version of 'CanoCraft' v3.6.4r1 from www.canon.co.uk
The latest 'ASPI v4.71' update from www.adaptec.com

Before starting the installation of the please make sure any current
installations of CanoCraft are uninstalled and the SCSI card is installed.
Then install the new version of CanoCraft followed by the ASPIv4.71 update.
Please note that it says on the Adaptec website that this version is not suitable for Windows XP, however it is required to allow communication through the SCSI port.

When you have installed the CanoCraft and ASPI32 update please run the
'CanoCraft Automatic Configuration'. This is done by clicking on 'Start', scroll up to 'Programs' then up to 'Canon CanoCraft FS'. Then scroll across to and click on 'CanoCraft Automatic Configuration'. This will configure the scanner to your PC, once
it has finished please restart your PC and then try the scanner.

We hope this information is of use to you. Should you require any further technical assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us, quoting your customer number. "

I did not follow the instruction from Adapted regarding installation vis a BAT file.
Adaptec said:
"Installation Instruction:
This file extracts by default to the c:\adaptec\aspi directory. If you have changed this directory, please note the directory you have chosen. For Windows 98, NT 4.0, Me and 2000, use the enclosed ASPIINST.EXE file to install the ASPI layer. For Windows XP, select Start - Run from the menu, and then the Browse button. Locate the INSTALL.BAT file in the directory the files extracted to and select the OPEN button. In the command box, add a space and either XP32 for Pentium I/II/III/IV processors or XP64 for Itanium processors. The command should look like: c:\adaptec\aspi\install.bat XP32 or c:\adaptec\aspi\install.bat XP64. Then select the OK button to run the XP installer."

What I actually did was to click on the install.exe file and it seemed to work.

Hope this helps

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