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Canob HF R10

Jan 1, 2011 3:04AM PST

Thinking about buying this one and was wondering if anyone knows if you can frame-by-frame advance on a video playback? Thanks for any help.

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Assuming you understand the
Jan 1, 2011 12:05PM PST

difference between high and low compression video formats, and that video and still image capture are VERY different processes, have you read through the manual?

http://gdlp01.c-wss.com/gds/5/0300003125/01/hfr10-r11-r100-nim-en.pdf

Specifically, there are a few sections on grabbing a still from the video.
Page 58, "Video Snapshot".
Page 82, "Capturing Video Snapshot scenes from a movie"

Is this what you are looking for?

Beyond using the camcorder as the playback device, you *could* import the video to your computer (assuming it - and the video editing software you are using) - can deal with AVCHD compressed MTS files) and use the editor for screen captures.

The software in the box with the camcorder is useless... What are you planning to use?

Video frames are generally blurry (compare to stills) - especially on these entry level camcorders. Shutter adjustments would be needed and can cause negative impacts on the video.

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Haven't read the manual yet
Jan 1, 2011 11:02PM PST

I'm a PGA golf professional looking to record a swing and then play it back on a 20" hd monitor (vs the 2.7 viewscreen). Would like to have frame by frame playback and can assume that the pause/play button would suffice but wondering about shudder using this method. Thanks to the group for suggestions. Ron

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Increased shutter speed
Jan 2, 2011 8:41AM PST

can help, but now that we know what you want, I would suggest not using a camcorder. In my opinion, with the fast action you are talking about, you are entering the realm of high speed videography that is better served by high speed video cameras and not consumer grade camcorders. While the Casio Exilim line might be worth a look, I would suggest a high-speed camera from Photron or Vision Research (among a few others) connected directly to a laptop.

Generally speaking, at default settings, you will find WAY too much blur because the consumer camcorder shutter will be around 1/60 second. When the shutter speed is increased (perhaps to 1/2000 second), there is better "stop action" but normal speed playback will be "stroby".

The best method is to capture are a very high frame rate. Consumer cams default to NTSC standard 30 (well, 29.97) frames per second. Sometimes they say "60 fps" - but I think this really is "fields per second" of interlaced video so you wind up back at 30 frames per second after de-interlacing. The Sonys with "SmoothSlowRecord" only burst for 3-4 seconds of 120-240 "fps" resulting in 12 second playback at regular speed and the video quality is not very good.

And on top of all this, going with very high compression AVCHD used in consumer cams will assure you of problems because of the high compression.

I presume there are other Pros you know who want to or already do the same thing. What do they use?