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Can Win98 and XP Reside Simultaneously?

May 6, 2005 6:10AM PDT

I am getting a computer from a friend that has XP installed but a now-defunct program I can't live without will not run on XP. It will run on Win98. Can I have both versions of Windows on the same machine?

If not, now can I dump XP and install Win98?

Thanks in advance for any help! Vicki

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A few suggestions.
May 6, 2005 6:30AM PDT

I've managed to get all but a few programs to run under XP. You should give it one last shot with help from the forum members. Start with naming that program.

Next, the ONLY supported way to run 98 is to install 98 first then XP. That's a lot of work. But so is installing Windows 98. Very few today realize that Microsoft does not install all the needed drivers.

In closing, here's the UNSUPPORTABLE method to install Windows 98 after XP -> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/tips/xp_repair_9x.htm

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Thanks, R. Proffitt
May 6, 2005 8:14AM PDT

The program is Micro Cookbook 5, from Pinpoint Publishing. The friend who is giving me the computer also had this program, and I tried all the fixes that users suggested on a couple of forums I found, including trying to run it in "98 mode" on XP. However, my friend had already transferred it from an even older computer, and may have done something to mess it up in that transfer.

If you have any ideas, I'm all ears...as I'll have to keep my ancient old computer just for that program if nothing else works.

But if I have the disks for both versions, do I interpret the link you sent correctly...that I could reformat the HDD, then install Win98, partition the HDD, then install XP? Does it matter that I would be totally reinstalling XP, and not "repairing" it? Also, would it matter whether I used Win95, Win98, or Win98SE? I have them all! For that matter, my friend would probably give me her Win2K disks if she still has them.

Thanks again, Vicki

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Partition Magic
May 6, 2005 8:52AM PDT

With the right partitioning program for example partition magic I think pm8 is the most recent version, you can simply repartition some of your free space on your HDD for a Windows 98.

The program will set aside however much space you ask it to and will put use the correct format for the OS you wish (FAT32 for windows 9Cool you can then simply run windows 98 from startup and install on the free space, this may require a startup diskette (floppy) if your cd-rom does not boot,from there its pretty simple. This is the way I did it when I needed to reinstall 98 but didn't want to lose my Windows XP settings by formatting (before I bought a second hard disk).

Bare in mind however that partition magic and software like it often cost money and with the price of hard disks these days it may be more cost effective to just buy another disk install windows 98 on it.

Make sure you have a boot loader
(I would suggest one but the last time I did this was with Linux and the only thing that comes to mind is GRUB loader and I'm not sure that will work with 2 windows installations rather than 1 windows and 1 linux but I suppose there's no reason why not)...
to ensure that both operating systems can run simultaneously. I had a problem once with 98SE and once with 2000 pro that when I installed them after XP, the XP installation was either lost (startup did not ask me to chose an OS even though the files were still in the c:\windows or d:\windows directories respectively) or it was corrupt and did not load.

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That's the clue.
May 6, 2005 9:55AM PDT

"my friend had already transferred it from an even older computer, and may have done something to mess it up in that transfer."

Programs don't transfer. They must be installed. Even if you go through the day's work of getting 98 running, I'm placing odds of 10 to 1 against this program running when transferred in such a manner.

Bob

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To make Micro Cookbook 5.5 work in XP.
May 6, 2005 12:43PM PDT

I am told that this will do the job, as expressed below:
I have been able to make Micro Cookbook 5.5 work with Windows XP by doing the following--
Put a copy (do not move the files, copy them) of odbcjt16.dll and odfox16.dll from windows\system32 into windows\system.
I have done this on two different computers and it works like a charm--I really wish someone would take over this software and update it.

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Thanks Nastyminds567, R. Proffitt, and Seafox13...
May 6, 2005 2:10PM PDT

Nastyminds567...WOW!! I had never even thought of just installing a separate HD, since my ancient computer could not have supported that, so I had always just concentrated on trying to get my friend fixed up. I'm pretty sure her old computer that I am inheriting might support that!!

Bob (R. Proffitt)...I'm sure she initially just tried to transfer, but we also actually tried to install from the disk, and there was no joy in Mudville!

Seafox13...I'm 99% sure this is one of the "fixes" I tried from a user forum, but couldn't make it work. I'll try again just to be sure. I'm with you...I sure wish someone would pick this program up and update it. It's the best cookbook program I'm come across, plus I've typed in about 1,000 recipes over the years that I don't want to part with!

Thanks again to all, and if anyone else has other ideas, I'll try anything!!

Vicki

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Micro Cookbooks 5.0 will work in Windows 7 with the above
Jul 2, 2012 11:13AM PDT

Thank you so much, for years I have been trying off and on and now my Micro Cookbook software works in Windows 7 with this from above: Put a copy (do not move the files, copy them) of odbcjt16.dll and odfox16.dll from windows\system32 into windows\system.