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Can I use an external hard drive to speed up my laptop?

May 19, 2014 3:47PM PDT

My laptop has a B960 processor 2.2Ghz and a 500Gb HD with 4Gb Ram.

I have problems with image software hanging (Perfect Photo Suite Cool. It takes ages to save an image file after adding effects filters sharpening etc.

Can an external drive be used as additional Ram?

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I suspect your s/w...
May 19, 2014 11:26PM PDT

May have added "virtual ram" to better use or allow better operation. This is in response if the installed ram isn't big enough to handle it all, it will refer to the HD then as virtual ram. Windoze pretty much does this on its own. The real fix, is to add more real ram as much as the PC allows or capable of handling. Using an ext. HD can't under its own features be better because it slow anyways. You can however, add a 8gb or better flash drive for better boot times or allow it to handle some feature under "boot boost" but that's about it. Being a laptop. that alone reduces added ram other than typical, so if you get serious about real outputs, then only a workstation or desktop will do, provided it is better overall.

http://www.daniweb.com/hardware-and-software/microsoft-windows/threads/205659/boost-win7-and-vista-boot-times

To answer your question, NO a ext. HD isn't going to help.

tada -----Willy Happy

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that's interesting
May 25, 2014 1:40AM PDT

I'm sure this is a dumb newbie notion but wouldn't it be neat if someone came up with a portable usb expansion slot for RAM .

Digger

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Neat?.....yes
May 25, 2014 8:30AM PDT

Small problem.......speed.
Even usb3 is limited to about 650MB/s.

Perhaps when usb6/7 comes out a plugin ram extension might function.

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Not now but later maybe
May 25, 2014 9:31AM PDT

I can't say something like that won't happen, but it basically would be provided as yet another generation of PCs. All this boils down to the buss which connects everything, physically speaking at the component level. That in turn allows passage of data to flow and this is one of the stumbling blocks. What new cpus and gpus do is all they can "internally" in themselves and pass along on the buss to the next item that requires whatever. That makes it faster and ram is only a "switching center" of traveling data that morphs as the need arise. What you do to one side, sooner or later the other side will improve. Its easier to develop an I/C that plugs-in somewhere and provides much of the data crunching but its another to actually pass that data from one source to another, effectively real time passing of the data slows things down. That's why ram has gone from 1-density to 2-density and now 3-density modules, DDR, DDR2, DDR3. Video even is better DDR4 and DDR5 levels. the buss handles data is width sides from old 4-bit, 8-bit, 16-bit, etc. which offers whole solved data solutions rather smaller bits though that still continues. That has to be the case as the "ports" to outside world require slower speeds, unless equally attached to buss, reduced bottleneck hasn't changed. You can see improvement over time and reduced I/C as well doing more than ever.

Why, I recall fixing a HD with hammer and screwdriver/adj. tool, using a feeler gauge to gap the heads. These heads were as big as a watch face and about 2in. long. They also had to be "lapped" to have a flat face to reduce spacing for a better fit. I'm still amazed at flash drives holding 8-64gb of data in the palm of your hand.

tada -----Willy Happy tube theory anyone?

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The problem is USB would
Sep 15, 2014 11:40PM PDT

never reach the speed of internal memory so the result would slow you down. Back in the day of the commodore 64 they had external memory module that plugged into special ports. But our computers are millions of times faster then they were in the 80's when Commodore was around.

Alot of systems today come with 16 gb or 32 gb of ram capability which is plenty. I upgrade my PC from 8 to 12 and I saw a performance jump immediately so I decided to go t0 16 gb. The jump from 12 to 16 wasn't even noticeable.

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No.
May 19, 2014 5:33PM PDT

An external hard drive does not behave, in any way, like RAM. It is purely and solely a storage device/location.

Mark

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Can I use an external hard drive to speed up my laptop?
May 19, 2014 7:42PM PDT

I have heard of using a scratch disk as a way of improving performance/speed for imaging software. Is that something different?
Sorry for being dumb but I am a computer user, not a buff

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Re: disk
May 24, 2014 8:54PM PDT

How full is your internal hard disk. How fragmented?

During that age it takes to save a file, how much of the CPU is being used (use 'Processes' tab in Task Manager, sort on decreasing CPU usage and you'll find it on top)? You only need 10 seconds to get a good idea, and that certainly is less than an age.

What does Process Explorer (free download from www.sysinternals.com, a Microsoft site) tell about the resources used while it saves the file?

Kees

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I meant Process Monitor.
May 24, 2014 8:59PM PDT
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No
Aug 11, 2014 7:34PM PDT

It will expand your storage capacity meaning you can cramp more files onto it but it doesn't speed up your laptop
It does,however, speed up the read/write data process if you add a hard-drive with a higher RPM than the old one
RAM and CPU take care of that matter. Unfortunately, upgrading CPU on a laptop is usually impossible (if it's possible, it's impractical)

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The best way which will cost you between 300 - 400.
Sep 5, 2014 12:31AM PDT

is to replace your 500 GB hard with a 500 gb SSD and add ram. Newegg has a Samsung EVO 500 gb SSD for 259 and 8 gb of ram for 79. Now if you laptop has 2 hard drive bay you could get a smaller SSD for boot purposes only and move the 500 GB to the 2nd bay. That would be even cheaper.