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Calling Foreign Baby-Makers To Hotel Maternity

Mar 4, 2015 3:17AM PST

You can check in, and your baby need never check out, of America. baby Anchors Away!! Citizenship for sale!

We need new laws, so that ONLY a woman who is an American citizen can give birth to another American citizen. Any child born to a mother who isn't American, retains that mother's country's citizenship.

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I watch Fox every day
Mar 7, 2015 10:47PM PST

but I get newsfeeds from the internet from various sources, including liberal sources, and nowhere have I seen the 'allegations' she refers to.....however, I have a question regarding her comments about how Fox can't be seen as a 'real' news station if O'Reilly 'threatens' reporters who don't report the facts. My question.....how can MSNBC's Maddow make a comment like that and yet not report on the 'news' that one of their own anchors, Sharpton, shakes down companies for money/donations to his various 'foundations' (that never pay taxes, shut down, and reopen as a new foundation that again doesn't pay taxes) in order to keep him from protesting against them claiming them to be 'racist'? Isn't that also news?

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RE: THAT'S why you 'don't remember ever reading or hearing
Mar 7, 2015 10:31PM PST
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Perhaps you should have
Mar 8, 2015 1:12AM PST

directed your post to Diana....SHE's the one who said she didn't 'remember ever reading or hearing about his mother or grandmother', JP..... And that's because the liberal media didn't bother to report anything about them....or even his brother or uncle or aunt, for that matter (the uncle and aunt were in this country illegally, were set to be deported, and both were 'let off the hook' even though the uncle had a record....and both are still here)

"Theories" that were actually based in fact that conservative groups were able to uncover when the liberal groups and media ignored or pooh-poohed it all.

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Everything else is fiction?
Mar 8, 2015 10:01PM PDT

The information that was presented by Fox and other conservative news groups was actually FACT....His aunt and uncle, in the country illegally and at least the uncle having a record, and both scheduled for deportation that kept being delayed.....those are true and both are still in the USA. His grandmother DID publicly make the statement that BO was born in Kenya....until all reporters were stopped from talking with her. The only thing that 'might' be fiction was the report that his mother had given up her US citizenship when she married BO's father.....but, so far, there has been nothing to dispute that report.....AND there is no record that she re-entered the US and went to Hawaii to give birth, just to disappear again.

I have never read LeBoutillier's book and have no intention to do so....but if YOU have decided that your link is 'proof' of BO's life as reported by many conservative groups is all fiction, you're wrong.

This is the only president that we've ever had whose entire life has been shrouded in secrecy by having many records either blocked completely and never released or huge gaps are questionable regarding how he got from point A to point B when his own biographical accounts in his own books would 'normally' point in an entirely different outcome and direction.

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RE: Perhaps you should have
Mar 8, 2015 4:45AM PDT
directed your post to Diana....SHE's the one who said she didn't 'remember ever reading or hearing about his mother or grandmother', JP..... And that's because the liberal media didn't bother to report anything about them.

NO...it was directed at the correct person.

AND

YOU said you didn't hear anything about that story either. nowhere have I seen the 'allegations' she refers to.. (so you're saying FOX News didn't report THAT story?)

I provided a link that showed it did, AND the person that made the claim said it was "fictional" story made up from "non-fiction"..."Or was it?" as one of the talking heads of FOX news questioned.

Diana said she didn't see it in "the liberal media", and the reason she didn't see it is because the "liberal media" didn't think that "fictional non-fiction" story was "newsworthy". FOX News did.
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Nope....
Mar 8, 2015 5:44AM PDT

Diana said (quote you): she didn't remember seeing anything about his mother or grandmother

BUT you directed it at ME........

I said: I get newsfeeds from many sources, including liberal ones, and didn't see anything about the allegations that Maddow claims against O'Reilly. I DID note, however, that she didn't bother to mention that the original lie made about O'Reilly covering the Falkland War was completely rebuffed with facts and videos that CBS provided in addition to O'Reilly's original documents that he located in his basement from that coverage. The lie that was put out there was that he had claimed to have BEEN on the island in the middle of that war and he never said he was.

As for the 'fictional' story....I still have no idea what you or SHE is talking about because I haven't seen it covered anywhere.

I question her credibility as a 'news' anchor when she won't even cover the REAL story about her 'partner' anchor, Sharpton, and how he blackmails companies into funding his very short-lived foundations to prevent him from claiming publicly that they are racists, just as he was able to get head honchos at Sony to back down over the Academy Awards issue. When do you think MSNBC will carry/cover THAT news?

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Mar 8, 2015 12:34PM PDT

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RE: didn't see anything about the allegations
Mar 8, 2015 12:41PM PDT
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RE: The lie that was put out there was that he had claimed
Mar 8, 2015 9:39PM PDT
The lie that was put out there was that he had claimed to have BEEN on the island in the middle of that war and he never said he was.

I don't suppose you can provide a link with someone, other than you, making that statement. (on the island in the middle of that war)

NO, he claimed he was 'in a war zone"...no mention of an island (Falkland Islands) HE and all or almost all of the other reporters were in some hotel in Buenos Aires, not within spitting distance from the Falklands. He ran the risk of being hit with a protest sign.

War zone? Should he receive a medal?

At issue: O'Reilly has made several references over the years to being in a "war zone" and a "combat situation." Since he and most reporters covered the war from Buenos Aires, the question was whether a protest there fit those descriptions.
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Evidently you
Mar 8, 2015 10:07PM PDT

don't consider violent protests/clashes with Argentinian police in the streets of Buenos Aries a 'war zone' even though CBS provided O'R with the actual video footage of that......people were killed in that clash that lasted quite a while in the streets....and it was all over the Falkland Islands issue. THAT is what O'R had been reporting on........NOT the fact that he was on the island....and yet the 'reporter' who supposedly 'outted' the 'lie' was lying himself and made up a story that he stated as fact when it was ALL fiction on his part....that THAT is what O'R proved against him.

I'm done.....

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RE: NOT the fact that he was on the island
Mar 8, 2015 10:29PM PDT

He WASN'T on the island...THAT'S a FACT.

The island was "the combat zone", he was in Buenos Aires.

when it was ALL fiction on his part.

sometimes YOU believe fiction...other times YOU don't.

When someone writes a book about Obama and calls it fiction...YOU call it FACT

Go figure.

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Since you seem convinced
Mar 9, 2015 6:40AM PDT

that 'when someone writes a book about Obama' I call it fact.....please provide a link to ANYTHING I've posted that states that.

I took everything that BO said in HIS book as fact....and the FACT is that he was higher than a kite for the last two years of high school and that he was a 'mediocre' grade achiever at best under those conditions, so explain how he got into prestige (for liberals) colleges since there is no way he has allowed ANY of those records to be revealed.

As for the 'combat zone'.....have YOU seen the videos of what was happening in BA? It was much worse than what happened in LA and other US cities during the 'race riots'.....

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RE: As for the 'combat zone'...
Mar 9, 2015 12:45PM PDT
have YOU seen the videos of what was happening in BA? It was much worse than what happened in LA and other US cities during the 'race riots'.....

I think someone needs to get in the wayback machine.

chanting, throwing coins, plastic bullets, tear gas

Sounds like they aren't very well equipped to fight a war/riot. Coins and plastic bullets? "Combat"? Stop making me laugh, my sides are hurting.

BA can't hold a candle to the LA riots.

Los Angeles Riots, 1992 (1)
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RE:so explain how he got into prestige (for liberals)
Mar 9, 2015 9:16PM PDT
so explain how he got into prestige (for liberals) colleges

How did a 20 year old pot head get into prestige colleges?

His drug dealer saw potential in Obama and thought he could be President of The United States of America.

Liberal colleges can "see into the future" and they knew he was presidential timber.

His step-grandmother in Kenya had "connections".

He paid "extra".

HOW do YOU think he got into a prestige college?

OR are you suggesting he didn't go to college?
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You are the one that stated that his mother
Jul 13, 2015 4:33PM PDT

renounced her citizenship. I was just asking where this information is and where is she a citizen when she died?

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Why would anyone want to come here
Mar 4, 2015 7:35PM PST

Aren't we a nation of hatred, violence and bigotry? Aren't we a nation of Walmart scaled wages for the unskilled? Aren't we a nation that looks down at anyone who's not white, Christian, and greedy for wealth? For the life of me I don't know what draws people here. We should be seeing a mass exodus instead.

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Re: why
Mar 4, 2015 7:46PM PST

Well, a few million Illegal immigrants coming from Mexico are mostly Christian, and they come to get (earn?) some money. Still it seems that some of your fellow countrymen look somewhat down on them. Must be because they aren't white then, but don't dare to call it racial discrimination.

Curiously, in Europe we see a very small exodus of a few Moslim youth wanting to join the IS (Islamic state, in Syria, Iraq, Lybia) and they aren't allowed. We cancel their passport and keep them here.

Kees

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Praise the Lord and pass the joint?
Mar 5, 2015 1:44AM PST

Some are good Christians, a lot just use that "name in vain" and are involved in drug trade, or their children join gangs involved in criminal activities. The other problem is they drive the wage scale down for all jobs, even the ones above what they are currently qualified to perform. I've seen a lot of white construction workers lose their jobs due to contractors using what should be considered "slave labor" instead. There's a farm near here who had them sleeping in a barn! The former workers there aren't there anymore, just the new cheaper labor. The argument is others wouldn't do the jobs they do, but before they arrived others as in citizens WERE doing those jobs. It's true they don't want to work for slave wages, so no longer want those jobs.

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RE: greedy for wealth?
Mar 4, 2015 8:26PM PST
greedy for wealth? We should be seeing a mass exodus instead.

Thousands Leave U.S. Over Taxes---5 Rules If You're Tempted

It's no secret that Americans are obsessed with taxes and unhappy with the IRS. Take the IRS crackdown on foreign accounts and income. See FBAR Penalties Just Got Even Worse. Some people vote with their feet. For most, taxes are at least part-usually a big part-of the equation.

Only a few months ago it was clear that U.S. Citizens are Ditching Passports in Record Numbers. But now the latest quarterly numbers show a marked uptick even over those figures. See Number of Americans Renouncing Citizenship Surges. The list of who's gone is published quarterly in the Federal Register.
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Looks to me like they're not leaving anyway
Mar 4, 2015 9:38PM PST

They're already living overseas and appear to be of dual citizenship giving up the US part.

And from this part of you link

"The latest bold-faced names to relinquish their U.S. citizenship include Mahmood Karzai, a brother of Hamid Karzai, the president of Afghanistan,..."

I'm not thinking he's any relationship to Joe the plumber from Toledo. Maybe he decided it was a mistake to sign up here and be subjected to an IRS shakedown. Sounds to me like a government created problem and not one of intolerant US citizens.

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RE:Looks to me like they're not leaving
Mar 4, 2015 11:57PM PST
Looks to me like they're not leaving anyway

Also "from my link"


Expatriating means really leaving.
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My first post said "mass exodus"
Mar 5, 2015 1:07AM PST

Yours said by the thousands but only mentioned few hundred. That's not a mass exodus. It's more like 20 people leaving Detroit because they don't like the new mayor. Yeah...the news media would be all over that.

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REYours said by the thousands but only mentioned few hundred
Mar 5, 2015 4:40AM PST
Yours said by the thousands but only mentioned few hundred. That's not a mass exodus.


Not if you include all the poor folk in America...BUT if you limit your search parameters to "rich folk", when 1,000 billionaires/millionaires a year start leaving, it could feel like a "mass exodus".

"mass" is relative.

Read some of the links in the article...you'll find thousands.

Notice how many "pages" are required for each quarterly report of number of Expats.

4 of the latest 5 pages are in the double digits from 9 to 16 pages in each report. previously there were 2, 3, 5 or 6 pages.
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I myself have considered
Mar 5, 2015 1:46AM PST

retiring to Greece in a few years. I can live a lot better there on the same dollar than I do here, just like before. Also not such cold winters, especially in the islands.

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(NT) So you'll turn in your passport?
Mar 5, 2015 4:49AM PST
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Response
Mar 5, 2015 5:01AM PST

When you retire in Greece.....Will you be making any "anchor babies"? Devil

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Nope
Mar 5, 2015 11:18AM PST

not unless I get a second and younger wife.

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(NT) Start saving up for one then.
Mar 5, 2015 11:21AM PST
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NOOOo
Apr 15, 2015 4:39AM PDT

I've realized that more foreigners are doing this much more!! It is seriously not fair!! They should give birth to their children in their own countries. If they dont like their country, then move to America! Marry an American male or something. Pregnant woman SHOULD not be allowed to ride the plane to America. If allowed, they SHOULD be ONLY allowed to stay in America for a few months so that they need to return back to their country before their due date. Obama definitely needs to do something about this issue. Btw, I am Asian American so I am also referring to my Asian country.