CADD/3D/Animation build.

by jopoco2005 Jul 26, 2018 12:01PM PDT

I am piecing together a computer for CADD/3D/Animation work. My goal is to eliminate as much latency as possible as it tends to distract from the creative. I plan to use a Ryzen processor and AMD graphics. I prefer ASUS, Gigabyte or MSI motherboard with w/ 470x bios and am4 socket. I will start with a Ryzen5 and the final purchase will be a thread ripper after everything else. I plan to use a 1T hard drive with a 256 or 512 GB ssd for cache.
1. Will this setup require software or does it come with the ssd to use it in this way?
2. How will using ssd as cache effect the needed amount of ram?
3. Would appreciate any input on AMD Graphics card priced around $300.
4. I am torn on operating system. I currently use Windows 7. I have not messed with Windows 8/8.1 much. As this computer will only be hooked up to internet as needed via ethernet, I am considering Windows 10. Any thoughts on 8.1 vs 10 would be appreciated.
I will be using a 37"-42" 4k tv for monitor.
All opinions or experiences with these products will be appreciated.

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There are two types of folk that build such.

by r. proffitt Forum moderator Jul 26, 2018 12:23PM PDT

Those that get nothing but Intel and Professional CAD GPUs like the Nvidia Quadro's and then folk that want to try something else.

You are the something else person and ACCEPT glitches and workarounds.

As the questions.
1. SSD as cache? Sorry, I just put my apps and data on SSD and I'm done.
2. A pretty odd idea. Windows, Linux and other OSes already do this without any work on my part.
I worry you are just new to how Virtual Memory OSes work. Let's just say "it works."
3. Shop this list: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-gpus,4380.html Gaming and CAD are very similar as to GPU demands.
4. At office and home we run W10. Not looking back and have no reason to enter into ANY tired OS WARS discussion. If you have a reason to run Linux, Apple OS, something else, you have your reason.

At 37 to more inches that's some UHD 4K TV so 300 is too low for good 4K performance. You want a GPU like the Nvidia 1080 or better.

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Two types of folks...

by jopoco2005 Jul 26, 2018 2:19PM PDT

I have been in the design profession for 30+ years. Cad since 2000. I have used both AMD and Intel and have had better performance with the AMD product. I have not really put one together from scratch since the 90's, when everything was a work around. For the last 20 years I have bought "workable" computers that more than handled my needs until recently. I am in the process of upgrading my skills and want a machine that will handle what I want do. The Animation end is a hobby. I chose the AMD format because I like the Idea of having one manufacture for both the GPU and CPU for better compatibility and hopefully less issues. I realize things are different these days. I can expand my graphics card budget if necessary. Yes, I am new to Virtual Memory..., My goal is to eliminate the wasted mistake money on this. I had read an article about setting up the SSD in the manner I stated was the only reason I was doing that. With ssd being a "newer" technology, i read where there have been some volatility issues and it was recommended to store data on HD. So I should get a SSD that is big enough for OS and software and use HD for storage, correct? I haven't used Win10, I'm not interested in the cloud, and didn't like the idea of having back doors built into my OS. As this computer will not be linked to the Internet unless upgrading software or fixing a glitch I am not concerned with those items. I have other devices for online business. Thank you for your thoughts.

Post was last edited on July 26, 2018 2:26 PM PDT

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There are two groups I see when it comes to CAD.

by r. proffitt Forum moderator Jul 26, 2018 2:29PM PDT

Those that go with the Intel and Quadro and other. I should have written groups rather than types so I apologize for that.

1. SSD. Once you go there you don't go back.
2. W10 and "cloud." We have some hundred PCs between the offices and home and not one of them uses a cloud. All are local logins and shared files are mostly on the servers. There are supposed backdoors in all Window versions so if that's an issue the person usually has moved off Windows long ago. Or figured out there isn't much of an issue there?

As to no Internet that could be an issue since Windows 7 and on does check for licensing. I've seen that happen and the owner get all upset about the demand for an Internet connection or a code you get by calling Microsoft.

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Build

by Bob__B Jul 26, 2018 10:38PM PDT

Look up the system reqs for the software you want to use and then build a system accordingly.

Storage.....if you can afford it put everything on a ssd.

That keeps it simple and makes backups easy.

If you want to drive that monitor at any kind of fps rate you will need a high end gpu.

OS....w10..........w7 will expire in about 18 months so you don't want that on a new build.

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Footnote on 4k

by jopoco2005 Jul 27, 2018 3:16PM PDT

Footnote. I am not really a gamer. I am getting a 4K TV for the resolution for cad work. I need a larger monitor so I can put it on the back wall and be able to lay plans on my desk in front of it. As I am an old school board draftsman, It is always nice to be able to view a sheet in native size before I plot. It is a real challenge to take some of the paper out of the "paperless" office. LOL.

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Pushing 4K?

by r. proffitt Forum moderator Jul 27, 2018 3:29PM PDT

That's about 4 times the pixels and work of the usual 1080p display so shop for GPU power about the 1070 or 1080 models to get similar/same results as you did on 1080p screens.

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by Bob__B Jul 27, 2018 8:44PM PDT

If all you want to do is display a static image then just about any gpu will do.

If you start moving things around on the screen then the gpu work load will jump.

So you determine what you want to do and then price in a gpu.

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I've seen UHD 4K pushed by an Intel HD Graphics.

by r. proffitt Forum moderator Jul 28, 2018 9:36AM PDT

It was incredibly annoying. The redraw was only a split second but the lag was always there telling you that you needed a far better GPU.

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