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Jun 14, 2006 6:21AM PDT

bytes kbytes megabytes gigabytes terabytes

i GET it that ram is the memory that handles the stuff you get when you mouse-click on something and it shows up on the desktop. And i THINK i GET it that the memory is all that stuff in storage waiting there in the Hard Drive for you to click on it and so bring it into view on the desktop.

Way back in olden days, when i bought my little old wind-up toy iMac graphite PPC G3 the sales guy told me i had about 52 gigs and about 250k of ram and sold me on the idea of getting an additional ram of about 500k. That worked well for me.

These days i am shopping the catalogs and looking at the "new" iMacs. They mention gigabytes but not in which place. Could it possibly be that ram is measured in gigs these days ?

Glass Hoppah

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I'd find a better place to shop.
Jun 14, 2006 6:50AM PDT

If salespersons are getting this bad they don't deserve your sale or money.

In short, today's machines are indeed coming standard with 1/2 to many gigabytes of RAM.

Bob

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and in the HD ?
Jun 14, 2006 8:03AM PDT

Thank you Robert,

And does this ALSO correspond to extra gigs or teras in the hard drive as well ? My little old windup toy that started out with 52 gigs is 75% full of mostly iTunes and photos that i just can't bear to part with. BTW, i am still looking at the macworld catalog offering of an iMac dual core. i am always assuming it is i who has the problem understanding and not the catalog producer's ability to portray.
glass hoppah

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Wind up toy
Jun 14, 2006 9:18AM PDT

You keep referring to your iMac SL as your wind-up toy. I have three of them running OS 103.9 with bells and whistles and one running 10.4, albeit a little slowly.
When that machine shipped it was a speedy little machine. It will still function as such but needs a little TLC to keep it in good condition. Blaming it for your lack of maintenance is a little unfair.

52GB is a strange HD size to have, it was probably 60GB before it was formatted. If it is too small for you, buy a larger one, you will max out at 120GB and stick it in a external firewire enclosure. Nothing lost.
You have two RAM slots in that machine which will allow you to max out the RAM at 1GB (2 x 512 sticks) but that is a little overkill. 256Mb is good with 512MB being even better.

Bob covered the MB/GB thing but as machines get faster and more sophisticated, the RAM size increases (8GB for the G5) and HD's get even larger (500GB anyone?)

BTW, the sales person you spoke to and who fed you all that BS, ignore them. They no not of which they speak.

P

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But, Master
Jun 16, 2006 9:49PM PDT

But, Master,

It was indeed you that first refered to my wondrous and magical SL as ''your little windup toy'' do you not recall ?

You have given me much to consider, contemplate and meditate upon. Were it not for all the newer USB and firewire configerations one might almost believe that the Dragon could be held at bay for a longer time with existing weapons.

Alas all USB connections are long since claimed. There IS the last unclaimed firewire 400 connection available . . . .

i have tried the accessory hub USB solution and found it to be faulty. Perhaps the seller should be ashamed of the poor quality of his wares, But i know he is not.

If this unworthy student of the black arts may inquire, would not 10.3 work better and more wondrously with Gigs in both Ram AND Storage ?
Glass Hoppah

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Memory
Jun 17, 2006 12:07AM PDT

Sorry, I don't recall calling your SL a wind up toy. Strangely, the search feature on this forum does not find me to be the author either, but if you have inside knowledge, it must be true.

USB hubs. Could it be that your hub was not powered? It is essential to use a powered hub as the iMac, and a lot of other machines, do not push out enough ooomph to keep the USB controller happy. Every time you connect another item to the Hub (in this case the iMac or the keyboard) you divide the available power until there is insufficient to run anything. A powered hub boosts the voltage back to the required level. Without the power you get the warning. Remember 127 devices can run on one USB connection!

Firewire. Most Firewire devices have a Pass-Through connection which enables you to daisy chain a number of devices together. 63 of them!

Most machines will benefit from having extra RAM but not necessarily from having a larger hard drive. That said, if the existing HD is getting to be close to 90% full, performance will suffer.

P

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Thanks yet again, but also Banter Banter
Jun 27, 2006 8:57AM PDT

Peter,
You have total recall of every insult, injury or slight (both delivered AND received).

(but only potentially)

Not wanting to think badly about oneself causes a little slippage in the area of the delivered ones. And so we all tend to hide these a bit from ourselves in our own mind's eye. It is a defense mechanism. If only we could be more forgetful of the ones received. sigh

The ''wind-up toy'' remark (i thought) came in a personal email from thee to mee. i did not take offense. i thought it SO humorous, in fact, that i began stealing it for personal use in my own tongue-in-cheek comments during posts. Or did it come from yet another wit ? Now you have ME confused. No matter. It is still and always only more banter and you know my views on that subject.

Read my Bio and you will see that memory (my own) is often faulty. Even remembering to unzip when in the loo is starting to become a challenge to me. A couple of strokes can have that effect. As for remembering to take my medications ?
Sign me,
hopeless

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USB/Firewire
Jun 28, 2006 3:26PM PDT

Nice to have this info repeated again. Good.
Thanks Pete,

-Kevin