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Buying a Surround Sound System

Aug 25, 2008 11:26AM PDT

I'm looking in to buying a surround sound system for my den and was wondering what I could get...

The room size is quite large, probably around 20' by 20'. I don't want to spend more than around $500.

What can I get that will give me good audio quality while watching DVD's or TV for that price?

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Well, we frequently see folks like you who want to do it
Aug 26, 2008 2:21AM PDT

for a decent improvement in sound for $500 bucks.

As one of the old audiophiles around here, I'd love to see you dedicate a bit more budget & select a modest receiver & start with just two decent speakers, then add on as money is available to build a setup that will please for a decade at least.

The reason is my opinion that all HTIBS (Home Theater In a Box) try to do so much within a tight budget that they all have some kind of inherently fatal flaw. That said, I know the typical money strapped youth will get an HTIB, so be advised C/NET reviews concur that usually the Onkyo brand ones offer maximum performance for the price.

I believe the most important source of sound difference is with the speakers. Each brand usually has a distinctive sound character, therefore getting out & listening seriously to some good candidates is the key to determining which is most pleasing to you. Speakers seem expensive up front, but they pretty much don't just wear out, but can please for decades. The speakers will easily outlast the electronics which have considerable tech progress that makes them seem obsolete.

Some leading candidate brands to look for include: JBL, Polk, Klipsch, Paradigm, Usher, dynaudio, Energy, Infinity, PSB, NHT, B&W, & Monitor Audio. Though I believe strongly in picking what sounds best for an individual, excellent values are available in internet direct sales to customer makes such as Axiom & Ascend.

Your choice obviously. HTIB is convenient vs. better quality & value in the project of listening to select. Best of luck & listening pleasure.

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How much are we looking at?
Aug 26, 2008 4:53AM PDT

Like...$1000, or $1500? For that kind of money, I could get a Bose home theater system...is that a good idea? Or is my best bet for good audio quality to buy seperates?

What kind of A/V receiver should I look into getting?

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A Bose outfit would be convenient, but better performance
Aug 26, 2008 5:41AM PDT

comes from separates. I guess you didn't know Bose is nearly a dirty word in this forum. I seriously auditioned Bose several years ago & chose another brand over it. That is typical among a lot of regular posters here. It is a matter of better performance & better value. Bose is especially good at marketing, but the Bose speakers are downright primitive - cheaply made.

A sort of recommended proportioning has been established, with a goal of 25% for the receiver & 75% for the speakers because that is where the sound difference is. Occasionally, a high end advocate has posted here with the opposite opinion, but he is referring to hyper-expensive pre amplifiers/ processors in a very non-typical, big bucks system.

Receiver, brands to consider? Start off with perhaps looking at an Onkyo 606. Up to date & feature laden at a fine value. C/NET does hold up Denon for a bit better sound & especially greater reliability; but that comes at a somewhat higher price. Remember the goal of maximizing budget for the speakers.

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Run away as fast as you can from Bose
Aug 26, 2008 6:10AM PDT

I can not find that last mega thread on bose, but Do not get one, they are a waste of money!!!!!!!

http://www.intellexual.net/bose.html

receivers-

Yamaha
Denon
Panasonic
Onkyo (I don't like them but there cheap & reliable)

You do not have to buy everything at one time, $1500 you can get a nice receiver, fronts speaker & a center speaker, then later get a sub + the back/surround speakers. Just makesure to keep with the same brand speakers when you pick up the backs & surround speakers, the sub can be a diffrent brand.
It is better to spend the extra money & having a good system last 10 years+, then buying a cheap system & having to replace it all over agian in a year or two.

20X20 is a good sized room & it will cost more then $500 to fill that room with 'real' sound, not noise. If you do want 'good audio quality' look at spend $2k+ for everything (7.1 set-up)

$600+ for reciever
$300+ Sub
$300+ center speaker
$250+ per pair front/back/surrounds ($750)

good speakers will last 15+ years, a good reciever will last about 5+ years.

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But...
Aug 27, 2008 7:54AM PDT

If I was going to buy an HTIB, what would be the best one on the market for my situation?

It sounds like the custom system would cost a little bit much, most likely $2000+...I'd rather not spend that much...

Is there an HTIB system that will do the job well enough that costs around $500-1000?

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As mentioned before, if you do go the HTIB route, then
Aug 28, 2008 12:59AM PDT

a advised that the C/NET reviews right here basically have branded Onkyo as the best bang for the buck.

Sure, we can recommend in good faith, but we're not here to knock you over the head.

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HTIB
Aug 28, 2008 1:06AM PDT

Almost everyone on here will recommend going with an Onkyo HTIB system. Check this one out:

http://onkyousa.com/model.cfm?m=HT-S5100&class=Systems&p=i

7.1 speakers, 1080p HDMI video pass-through (3 inputs), pretty solid output power, Audyssey Auto room calibration, iPod dock included...all for $599.

You could get that now and not blow your budget. The only thing I'd consider also adding to that is a better subwoofer from eD, HSU, or SVS. But if the included subwoofer from that package is good enough for what you want then just keep it.

That system is way better than any Bose system and costs alot less.

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Another Onkyo HTIB to consider
Aug 28, 2008 1:10AM PDT