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Jun 2, 2006 10:26AM PDT
Dunkin' joins program to verify if workers are legal

You may have already seen the signs popping up at your local Dunkin' Donuts shop: ``We follow the law! This company hires lawful workers only. "

The signs, which have begun appearing in shops around Boston, make public the company's participation, starting June 1, in a voluntary federal program that enables employers to quickly check the immigration status of new hires.

Dunkin' Donuts is requiring all of its franchisees to participate in the Basic Pilot Program, which allows employers to verify a worker's status using online databases from the Social Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

The company chose to participate in the program partly because it sometimes receives complaints from customers who assume its workers -- especially those whose first language isn't English -- are in the United States illegally.

Some advocates for immigrants dislike the program because they say the databases contain errors, which could lead to people being unfairly fired.


Good for them. Who needs an immigration bill if more companies will USE this service and/or there is more stringent auditing of companies that don't avail themselves of this service? No mention of if there is a charge to tie into the database. Should be free.

Evie Happy

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(NT) (NT) Lik them better than Krappy Kremes
Jun 2, 2006 10:27AM PDT
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(NT) (NT) wtg and k kreem yummy
Jun 2, 2006 10:35AM PDT
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I wonder....
Jun 2, 2006 10:40AM PDT

Maybe its my imagination, but just today I mentioned to the wife while visiting our favorite Dunkin Donut hole here in town, if she noticed anything different. Seemed more Americanized. Everybody spoke good english. I did'nt have to use sign language to get the donut I wanted. No kidding. Before I felt like I was in Brazil.

George

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Next time I'm visiting the folks ...
Jun 2, 2006 10:45AM PDT

... I'll have to go to the D&D there and see if there's any difference. The help there has tended to speak English very poorly in the past. There will obviously have to be an attrition period, however, since for some reason they are not allowed to use the data base to verify the legitimacy of current employees. If a law change needs to be made for that then so be it! It seems ridiculous that if you manage to get a job fraudulently you can't be checked up on later, especially if the laws on employeeing illegals are going to be (rightly so!) more stringently applied.

Evie Happy

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the D&D i frequent is run and owned by
Jun 2, 2006 10:52AM PDT

indians allways great service and extra munchkins for me

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Just a notice
Jun 2, 2006 11:04AM PDT

One's ability to speak English and one's legal status have no relation at all. In NYC there's a lot of people who are here legally but speak very poor English.

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There's no mathematical formula ...
Jun 2, 2006 11:36AM PDT

... but considering the numbers of Hispanic illegal immigrants and their general lack of desire to learn the language, there is indeed a likely correlation. My folks don't live in NYC, nor do they live in an ethnic community. But there are a LOT of illegals hanging around in certain areas nearby.

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IOW
Jun 2, 2006 11:45AM PDT

you agree with me when I say that there no relation between knowledge of English and legal status?

And HOW do you know that they are illegal? Have you checked their papers and invaded their privacy illegaly? Or do your folks have help with garden/apartment/cleaning from illegals? I'm just curious to know how you can tell that someone is here illegaly.

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(NT) (NT) well let d&d do it works for me
Jun 2, 2006 11:48AM PDT
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No I don't
Jun 2, 2006 11:59AM PDT

I agree that it's not a direct cause and effect relationship, but you'll definitely find a higher percentage of illegal aliens amongst groups of people that can't speak English and speak the native tongue of a country from which the vast majority of illegals eminate.

I didn't say they WERE illegal. It's up to D&D to find out. I said it would be interesting to see, based on George's observation, if I would see similar in my folk's area.

My parents household is none of your business. But you can rest assured they never had an illegal alien doing any work in or around their home.

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Well...
Jun 2, 2006 1:24PM PDT

you actually said "But there are a LOT of illegals hanging around in certain areas nearby." So yes, you DID say that they ARE illegal. My question is HOW do you know they are illegals? One of my thoughts was that maybe your parents had have somebody working for them. That ain't the case. I don't really care about anyone's household, but I would like for you to tell me HOW you know that they are here illegaly.

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Is that a demand or a request??
Jun 2, 2006 1:33PM PDT

Whatever it sure sounds rude!

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Legal workers ...
Jun 2, 2006 1:37PM PDT

... don't congregate on street corners waiting to be picked up for a day's labor paid in cash. I wasn't talking about the DD. Coindicentally, on May 1 there were sizeable demonstrations in those areas. The contractors that pick them up know damned well that they are not documented. Too bad the INS doesn't sweep by. If I got an official looking magnetic logo for my car that said INS and drove it through one of those areas, how many do you think would still be there after spotting that logo? LOL.

This has NOTHING to do with my parents so you can quit the trolling behavior.

You got the names of the Hebrew only speaking shops for me yet?

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(NT) (NT) that will be interesting to see
Jun 2, 2006 10:08PM PDT