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Bush is not ethical according to christians

by Dan McC / September 2, 2004 4:59 AM PDT
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Planned Parenthood under scrutiny
by Dragon / September 2, 2004 11:22 AM PDT
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Ummm, that's against the law. If they did it, they should
by Kiddpeat / September 2, 2004 3:07 PM PDT

be scrutinized. Even churches have to avoid taking sides because of tax exempt status.

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Re: Bush is not ethical according to christians
by dirtyrich / September 2, 2004 12:46 PM PDT

And these men speak for all Christians everywhere...

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I dissagree, they sure don't
by Dan McC / September 2, 2004 10:30 PM PDT

Why would you propose that idea?

But they are among the most learned christians and study ethics and related matters.


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(NT) (NT) Yah, the cream of the crop, thoughtful leaders
by netsky / September 2, 2004 10:35 PM PDT
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Why would he propose such an idea ...
by Evie / September 2, 2004 10:39 PM PDT

... probably because of your subject line missing a qualifier like "some" or "some learned" in front of Christians.

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(NT) (NT) You're right, he shouldn't skim. Thanks.
by Dan McC / September 2, 2004 11:04 PM PDT
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(NT) (NT) Blaming others for your mistake doesn't cut it
by Evie / September 2, 2004 11:05 PM PDT
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You're the one who indicated he only read the subject line
by Dan McC / September 2, 2004 11:17 PM PDT

I'm just going with your interpretation of his activities.


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No ...
by Evie / September 2, 2004 11:39 PM PDT

... I said that's where he got the idea.

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But, by extension, you must agree
by Dan McC / September 2, 2004 11:45 PM PDT
In reply to: No ...

that a thorough reading of the full content would have disabused him of that notion.


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I think I see where the confusion comes from
by Josh K / September 3, 2004 12:34 AM PDT

It's like the thread in which I suggested that if you believe the "swift boat" allegations against John Kerry, then you must also think that Bush is either wrong or lying when he says Kerry served his country admirably.

Although Bush didn't qualify his statement, Toni tried to do it for him.

So apparently sometimes exact words are what you go by, but at other times you can just guess what the speaker might possibly have meant based on your own personal bias and that's OK.

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You are reaching here Josh
by Evie / September 3, 2004 12:37 AM PDT

It's pretty clear that dirtyrich needs no clarification by me that he was responding to Dan's misleading subject title. See here

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Doesn't mean ...
by Evie / September 3, 2004 12:38 AM PDT

... he is prevented from commenting on YOUR misleading subject line. Indeed he has also clarified that and you should make any further responses to him in this thread.

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It also doesn't mean
by Dan McC / September 3, 2004 1:11 AM PDT
In reply to: Doesn't mean ...

that we don't appreciate your efforts to clear things up, Evie.



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Re: I dissagree, they sure don't
by dirtyrich / September 2, 2004 11:35 PM PDT

I was sarcasm...and I was commenting on your topic.
Moreover...these professors teach at "generally" conservative religious universities, which, considering the state of academia right now, could mean that only 70% or so of the faculty are registered Democrats.
The fact is that there are multiple motivations for this letter, ranging from a simple political attack to a bunch of guys who resent the campaign's attempt to work with the churches, and yes, maybe even they do truly and only believe it has to do with ethics.
But to qualify for a topic line of
"Bush is not ethical according to christians"...

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Re: I disagree, they sure don't
by Dan McC / September 3, 2004 1:18 AM PDT

Your comment regarding the makeup of the academic community might be correct, but it can hardly be applied to christian educational institutions. I think we can all agree that this population would be considerably less moderate than the academic community at 'general purpose' institutions.

The two of the three reasons you cite are pretty good ones and most likely apply well beyond the list of signatories.


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Re: I disagree, they sure don't
by dirtyrich / September 3, 2004 6:30 AM PDT

Not sure how far out of college you are, but I'm only 3 years out, and while I was there the school newspaper polled the professors at our school for their political affiliations. Only two departments, economics and business management, were mostly Republican, and there were close to 10 that had no registered Republicans in them. From what I've read in the news and heard from friends, most schools with liberal arts programs have the same tendency.
Not sure abotu religious schools myself, but I doubt that they are as conservative as many think...in my opinion, its another incidence of people assuming Christians are automatically conservative.

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Look at the cirricula ...
by Evie / September 3, 2004 6:50 AM PDT

... at elite religious institutions of higher education and the writings of the professors. They are often further to the left (think DK's frequent references to Jesus' real message of economic justice) than most academics!

Evie Happy

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I find this funny...............
by Glenda / September 3, 2004 4:12 AM PDT

after calling Christians delusional for our beliefs in Christ and the Bible, YOU want to use some Christians thoughts on President Bush?? Wait!! Maybe they are just brainwashed and have no clue what they are saying!! LOL

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You must be having delusions
by Dan McC / September 7, 2004 12:25 AM PDT

Show me where I said christians are delusional.


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(NT) (NT) Apology accepted. Thank you.
by Dan McC / September 8, 2004 4:09 AM PDT
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NO apology offered!
by Glenda / September 8, 2004 5:48 AM PDT

You berate Christians in any thread that starts on that subject!

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Ahhhhh....now you change your accusation
by Dan McC / September 8, 2004 5:54 AM PDT
In reply to: NO apology offered!

I'm glad you've given up on that delusional accusation.

OK, when did I berate christians?


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Their prayers have been answered:
by drpruner / September 4, 2004 2:37 PM PDT

Near the end of the Post article I read: "The ethicists' letter said that 'Christians, individually, should prayerfully seek God's direction when voting,'"

If they have Bibles, their prayers for God's direction have been answered:

As to choosing a human to lead other humans in any serious endeavor, they have Jer 10:23; 17:9; Pr 20:24.

As to 'choosing up sides,' one country over another, they have Dan 2:44,45; Mt 6:10,33; Rev 4:11; 16:14,16.

As to choosing a Commander in Chief, assigning him the right to send them off to kill other Christians, they have Joh 13:34,35.

Regards, Doug in New Mexico

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