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Brussels Belgium

Mar 22, 2016 4:20AM PDT

2 bombings there today. One who did the Paris bombings was earlier arrested, but this seems to be another group or person doing these.

They need to slow hang these in a public execution, perhaps where the bombs were set off, after extracting all the information from them they can. After hanging is completed, publicly coat them in pig's blood, then do NOT give the body back to anyone, but bury in a secret place. The Bible describes such people as "brute beasts whose neck should be laid to the slaughter". The punishment needs to fit the crime, so public killings to result in public punishments, even in the same place where the killings took place.

What about suicide bombers? We know they are under control by others. When we can find them, do the same to them.

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Like heads on spikes in London?
Mar 22, 2016 4:56AM PDT

This was bad but, today, not unexpected. I agree that strong action should be taken but I'd much rather not make a public display of it. Haven't we learned that, in today's world, using fear and intimidation don't work. With these people, it just eggs them on. Rather...it should be quick, decisive and with as little publicity as possible.

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Mar 22, 2016 8:13AM PDT
".it should be quick, decisive and with as little publicity as possible."

Like an unannounced bomb?
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No
Mar 22, 2016 10:47AM PDT

When you see or hear of Americans being paraded by captors or their bodies dragged in the streets, do you feel frightened or do you feel like doing something even more gruesome? To me, a better choice is obvious. You do what needs to be done and keep it as low key as possible. It may be occasionally necessary to perform evil deeds but it's nothing one does with celebration.

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what's being done so far isn't working
Mar 22, 2016 7:13PM PDT

time to try something new.

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In a sense, I agree.
Mar 23, 2016 2:09AM PDT

Doing nothing isn't working. We're not fighting a classic war where soldiers march from opposite ends of the battlefield with picnickers watching from the hillsides. We don't however, need to feel that rubbing noses in the dirt makes a victory any better. We didn't know this enemy until it emerged and grew over the past few years. We've had a chance to study it and its methodology, or so I'd think. It appears that this one looks for worldwide attention as a motivator for its individual "soldiers". Don't give it that attention. We also have an enemy that's not dependent on the upper echelons of its leadership to tell it which way to turn next. We can't just focus on these few people as a way to make the combatants give up. They fight quite independently of their "generals" because they truly believe in their cause. In other words, surgical bombings are a waste of time, IMO. We do need to remove all and not just a few and we don't do it in a way that inspires the fence sitters to join them.

One thing we've definitely seen is that these combatants know no fear of death and even welcome it. They don't cringe at the sight of their fallen. It inspires and makes their ranks grow. Our method of eradication needs to take this into account.

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The only way we can beat them
Mar 23, 2016 10:17AM PDT

is to break their spirit, because they have the wrong spirit, and that is the spirit of Satan. We need to also directly target Islam, because that's where the spirit of evil resides and infects them. We need to get over this error that all religions are good, or of spiritual advantage to the individual, and accept that error in some religions are so egregious they must be destroyed. This Islam started in 600AD at an opportune time when the Christian church was in a big argument over Rome being the capital of Christianity and the centralization of authority there, rather than respecting the Bishops rule over each congregation, as it had been for centuries before. Into this schism, and Africa's worry of a new Roman power rising, came Mohammed and took advantage of that. A little evil leavens the entire lump and that lump and leaven has grown to very large size to now threaten the entire world. It must be destroyed. An interesting OT prophecy predicts it's complete destruction, so that like Chernobyl, only wild animals will live where Islam began and is currently strongest.

Isaiah 43 (about Edom, that is the land we call Saudi Arabia and particularly the area where Medina and Jeddah is located)

For the Lord has a day of vengeance,
a year of retribution, to uphold Zion’s cause.
9 Edom’s streams will be turned into pitch,
her dust into burning sulfur;
her land will become blazing pitch!
10 It will not be quenched night or day;
its smoke will rise forever.
From generation to generation it will lie desolate;
no one will ever pass through it again.
11 The desert owl and screech owl[c] will possess it;
the great owl[d] and the raven will nest there.
God will stretch out over Edom
the measuring line of chaos
and the plumb line of desolation.
12 Her nobles will have nothing there to be called a kingdom,
all her princes will vanish away.
13 Thorns will overrun her citadels,
nettles and brambles her strongholds.
She will become a haunt for jackals,
a home for owls.
14 Desert creatures will meet with hyenas,
and wild goats will bleat to each other;
there the night creatures will also lie down
and find for themselves places of rest.
15 The owl will nest there and lay eggs,
she will hatch them, and care for her young
under the shadow of her wings;
there also the falcons will gather,
each with its mate.

16 Look in the scroll of the Lord and read:

None of these will be missing,
not one will lack her mate.
For it is his mouth that has given the order,
and his Spirit will gather them together.
17 He allots their portions;
his hand distributes them by measure.
They will possess it forever
and dwell there from generation to generation.

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THIS Islam maybe but it just might go back as far as
Mar 23, 2016 1:28PM PDT

Abraham and Hagar with the later prophet trying to claim rights to some inheritance...or so I've heard speculated. It was the Jews who were considered the bad boys. In any event, the feeble attempt of the Roman church and their limited war on the already widespread Muslim people doesn't get good reviews by any of today's historians. At the time, the European kings were not exactly friendly to one another but the pope was able to convince them that a greater threat than loss of their individual kingdoms was at hand...that all of Europe was in danger due to Muslim invasion. He was able to get them to give up a few men to be liberators of Jerusalem but these weren't exactly the most disciplined of their citizens. They didn't accomplish much more than to tarnish the reputation of the growing church. As for these "bishops", they were not exactly placed as intended by the church. Many were appointed by the kings or elected by congregations. Those elections were written to be shams as kings had veto power over who would bishop in their neighborhoods. The elections, as I understand it, were more or less just affirmations of the kings desire. It was the meddling in each others affairs between church and state that led to one of the popes deciding that centralization of church authority was needed. That makes sense to me. In any event, I don't see how that relates to what we are seeing now unless you're suggesting some missed opportunity.