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British pronunciation question

by EdH / February 5, 2006 3:08 AM PST

I was watching a TV show with my jkids that featured a race between a slug, a snail and a . The peopelk werre British and they pronounced tortoise the way it's spelled: TOR-TOYCE instead of the way most Americans say it: TOR-TUS. I wondered if that was how they really pronounce it over there or were they "having us on"?

Anyone know?

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Then how should we pronounce "turquoise"?
by Steven Haninger / February 5, 2006 3:19 AM PST

We, in the US, think of it mostly as stone used in Native American jewelry but I think it's Turkish. As for the shell backed critter, I just call them all "turtles" and let someone correct me if necessary.

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I think the original pronunciation of turquoise...
by EdH / February 5, 2006 3:29 AM PST

would have been TUR-KWAHZZ or something like that. French you know.

But TOR-TOYCE is growing on me.

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Might be useful to know more than one pronunciation
by Steven Haninger / February 5, 2006 3:38 AM PST

so you can blend into any roomful of people....and not commit those awful "fox passes". Wink

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i was taught to pronounce it
by jonah jones / February 5, 2006 3:48 AM PST

tur-quoize, but over here it's pronounce tur-keeze

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(NT) (NT) How do they pronounce "turkeys" then?
by EdH / February 5, 2006 4:10 AM PST
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(NT) (NT) tarnagol hodu...:-)
by jonah jones / February 5, 2006 5:38 AM PST
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Of course
by EdH / February 5, 2006 8:35 PM PST

"Indian chicken"

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(NT) (NT) that's the way we/they say it ;-)
by jonah jones / February 5, 2006 3:33 AM PST
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Thanks, Jonah...
by EdH / February 5, 2006 3:39 AM PST

My kids have already adopted it as their official pronunciation.

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Yep
by MarkFlax Forum moderator / February 5, 2006 3:41 AM PST

We say Tortoyce.

But then, we UK English pronounce everything properly. Take Aluminium.

Americans say Aluminum - Aloo min um
We say Aluminium - Al u min e um, as it is spelt.

I'm sure I could find others. Devil

Or I could batten down the hatches and hide........

Mark

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But correct the wrong American
by Steven Haninger / February 5, 2006 3:45 AM PST
In reply to: Yep

and risk a bad case of lead poisoning.]:)

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Ha ha
by EdH / February 5, 2006 3:49 AM PST
In reply to: Yep

Actually it's the other way around...

You both spell and pronounce aluminum incorrectly. American pronunciation and spelling is usually the right way, and the British the wrong.

Take as an example, the word "gaol".

I rest my case.

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(NT) (NT) Who put the "r" in Washington?
by JP Bill / February 5, 2006 3:57 AM PST
In reply to: Ha ha
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Nobody I know pronounces it with an "r"
by EdH / February 5, 2006 4:02 AM PST

Maybe in some other part of the country, but I wouldn't know aboat that

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I used to...
by Angeline Booher / February 5, 2006 4:07 AM PST
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Response
by JP Bill / February 5, 2006 4:08 AM PST
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Everyone knows you can't trust those people...
by EdH / February 5, 2006 4:18 AM PST
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from Washington (DC that is)

There's a town near me called Westminster, Vermont that everybody pronounces WestMINISTER. Drives me crazy. And we won't even get into "Worcester".

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Ahh Worcester
by MarkFlax Forum moderator / February 5, 2006 7:09 PM PST

A great little English hamlet.

Pronounced Wooster in the UK.

How do US say it?

What about Birmingham then? Some in the UK say it is the UK's 2nd city. The other 99% of the population avoid the place! Happy

We pronounce it Ber ming hum

I believe in the US it is pronounced Ber ming HAMMM

This could go on for years couldn't it.

Mark

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Two competing steak sauces in the US were
by Steven Haninger / February 5, 2006 8:21 PM PST
In reply to: Ahh Worcester

A-1 (Heinz, I believe) and Worchestershire (by Lea and Perrins). The later we pronounced as "Wooster".

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People in Massachusetts pronounce it...
by EdH / February 5, 2006 8:30 PM PST
In reply to: Ahh Worcester

WISS-TAH

There are many varying pronunciation styles in the US. New England is quite distinct from the South or West or even Philadelphia.

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and not to forget Gloucestershire
by jonah jones / February 5, 2006 10:11 PM PST
In reply to: Ahh Worcester

Glostisher Happy

Glo-cest-er-shire


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re. "those people"
by Dick White / February 6, 2006 2:36 AM PST

the ones from Warshinton are not the problem; it's the ones who come here from somewhere else, convinced that having donated a pile of money to the President-elect's campaign fund or maybe carried his suitcase into the hotel at some fundraiser event in the hinterlands somehow uniquely qualifies them for the task of "fixing" the "problem" commonly referred to during the campaign as "Washington" (without the "R") and then proceed to screw it up worse because they have no frickin' clue what they are doing ...

dw

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(NT) (NT) There's usually an "r" in the Baltimore area, for one..
by Dave Konkel [Moderator] / February 5, 2006 10:28 PM PST
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Hi, there, Mark! Now, just for fun.
by Angeline Booher / February 5, 2006 4:04 AM PST
In reply to: Yep

Not to worry.

We have the same differences in pronounciation around the country.

My Dad was raised in the state of Virginia. Even after living for a while in West Virginia, and most of his adult life in Kentucky, he continued to pronounced "ou" as Canadians, for instance do.

I say ""howse" and blowse" (with an "ow" sound. He said "hoowse" and "bloowse", with an "oo" sound.

One of my friends, though raised in my area, added an "r" at the end of words like "idea"(idear), as did President Kennedy. ("Cubar"). But neither would have written them that way. I have known people who say "Mizsruz" for "Mrs", referring to a married woman.

Some say "adverTISment". I say, "ADvertisement".

There was an interesting TV series (and a book) titled, "The Story of English".

There is an old song that says, "You say potaTAH, and I say "potatO", you say "TomaTAH, and I say "tomatO"...:-)

Angeline
Speakeasy Moderator
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It's "You say "poTAHto", and I say "poTAYto"...
by EdH / February 5, 2006 4:09 AM PST

I saw a comedy bit once where both singers pronounced the words the same, and then gave up because they didn't get it.

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Your are right!
by Angeline Booher / February 5, 2006 4:13 AM PST
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and who says............
by jonah jones / February 5, 2006 5:44 AM PST

toity poiple boids
sittin on de koib
choipin and boipin
and eatin
doity woims...

Happy


jonah ''hoping Mark hasn't battened down yet'' jones''

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Isn't that how everyone speaks?
by MarkFlax Forum moderator / February 5, 2006 7:19 PM PST

We do here...... !

Mark

PS, it's Potato, and Tomahto. Everyone know that!!! <g>

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(NT) (NT) :-)
by Angeline Booher / February 5, 2006 8:34 PM PST
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Hi, Mark. "Aluminum" is spelled w/o that "i" over here --
by Dave Konkel [Moderator] / February 5, 2006 10:27 PM PST
In reply to: Yep

so it's pronounced as spelled on both sides of the pond! And over here, "spelt" would be marked wrong on a spelling test, as well; it's considered a crudity used by the uneducated!

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