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Brett Kavanaugh confirmed

Oct 6, 2018 1:25PM PDT

as a Supreme Court justice .
As claims of him committing sex abuse allegations go unconfirmed .

Right On Brett ! Get back to work !

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Geesh...
Oct 6, 2018 5:03PM PDT

I think some drug addicts and thieves get better treatment than this guy.

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K
Oct 6, 2018 9:11PM PDT

Nothing came out of the hearing to disqualify him.

His temperament kind of left a question mark.

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From what I could see in the news coverage,
Oct 7, 2018 1:34AM PDT

His "temperament" was far more tolerable than those who sought to disqualify him. One well constructed emotional piece versus violent tantrums from the public and a few unhinged congress persons, IMO, made his little speech seem quite calm. If you wanted to see the definition of the pot versus kettle analogy, you saw one of the best examples this past few weeks.

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None the less
Oct 7, 2018 1:45AM PDT

He was in a job interview.

Some of the interviewers were hostile.

You keep your answers brief.....yes/no/did not happen.

Do not feed these interviewers ammo.

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Look at your entire post....
Oct 7, 2018 3:11AM PDT

"keep your answers brief.....yes/no/did not happen"

The perfect example of a robot with no brain or emotions.

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Hey !
Oct 7, 2018 6:37AM PDT

Take it easy on us short answer people Toni !
Remember , some of us were only ditch diggers lol Mischief

Post was last edited on October 7, 2018 6:46 AM PDT

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In india, you'd be a dalit.
Oct 7, 2018 8:14AM PDT

The trending thing, but still miserable. Stay with us, your buddies.

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Nope
Oct 7, 2018 9:41AM PDT

A perfect example of a judge with enough self control to sit on the SC.

The hearing was not the place to display those emotions.

We all have emotions there is a time and place to display them.

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Your second sentence
Oct 8, 2018 3:42AM PDT

belies what happened.....F was just as emotional in her opening statement with choked up voice and "I'm terrified" gave the impression that she was being 're-victimized' by being forced to come out publicly and garnered extreme 'sympathy' from Dem Senators. apologizing to her over and over again for what K 'did' to her and they hadn't even heard what he had to say yet. They treated her like she was a child made of glass instead of the adult she is and never questioned anything she had to say and pointed at the Reps and the attorney questioning her as bullies.

K, righteously outraged at the treatment he was receiving from the Dem Senators, fought back as a MAN and not as a judge for a whole ten minutes during his opening statement at being publicly found guilty before ANY 'evidence' was produced and knowing the Dem Senators had publicly stated that it was up to HIM to prove he was INNOCENT. Most of the Dem Senators were actually PROSECUTORS previously and were literally throwing out the basic US court premise in their current positions that just the OPPOSITE is true and that IF they were STILL prosecutors, NONE of them would have brought a case against K. They were all playing to THEIR base publicly and the hell with K being a 'scapegoat' as you called him, and the hell with whatever happens next to Ford.

You talk about the hearing not being the place to display those emotions....what about the emotions the Dem Senators were showing? Would you condemn THEIR behavior as well?

And, if you think judges, in ANY court on any level, don't show emotions (both heartfelt or anger) in their courtrooms, you haven't been witness to many courtrooms.

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Hearing
Oct 8, 2018 5:00AM PDT

No one else in that room was in a job interview.

Not Ford or any of the senators.

Yet K went off into a verbal rant....sort of like you do.....and fed the dems ammo.

Now people are starting to wonder if this guy has the temperament for the SC.

He got in because the repubs control the senate and the FBI did not find a smoking gun.

What people thought of Ford's testimony is their business.

There was no witness so it came down to she said, he said.....flip a coin.

Yes a sitting judge in their courtroom can and will show emotion.

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Excuse me?????
Oct 8, 2018 3:03PM PDT

"No one else in that room was in a job interview."....the HELL THEY WEREN'T.....at least TWO of them in that room are planning to run for PRESIDENT in 2020....and they sure as hell didn't act 'presidential' nor show they have the 'temperament' for THAT job, according to Dem standards, did they?

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Act presidential
Oct 8, 2018 4:44PM PDT

Yes they did.
They were given a task and they did it.
There was not much chance of keeping K out of the SC with the repubs holding the senate but perhaps the main goal was to get the dem voters out in the mid terms.
IF they run for prez 2 yrs out it will make a good talking point for them and get them some extra votes.

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They acted presidential
Oct 9, 2018 3:23AM PDT

by walking out on the vote in protest, but Trump isn't presidential when he calls them out on it? Gimme a break...….
Whether you know you will lose or not, you don't pick up your bat and leave the field...….they were nothing more than CHILDREN having temper tantrums and since they were "interviewing for a job", they won't get far with their 'employers' (the US voters). They used Ford as an excuse to get into the front headlines and she's been tossed away a day later like leftover moldy food in the fridge....they haven't even mentioned her name since.

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Walkout
Oct 9, 2018 4:44AM PDT

That was a symbolic gesture.
The dems knew from the start that the repubs held all the cards.
Voters?
I doubt that that walkout crew is much interested in people who have.... FR.....far right....branded on their forehead.

The Don presidential?........that's a stretch.

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The "walkout"
Oct 9, 2018 6:56AM PDT

The problem with showing this kind of attitude is that it negates any promise of working toward unity. Anyone, or any party, that promotes unity must show themselves as an example rather than display themselves as the opposite. As far as I'm concerned, walking away from one's job duties is reason for dismissal. Voters should fire people who are derelict in this way.

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Well, if they insist on electing derelicts ...
Oct 9, 2018 8:13AM PDT
Grin
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In the last 4 yrs of Bush
Oct 9, 2018 12:34PM PDT

and the first 4 of BO, when Dems had complete control, did ANY Reps walk out in protest as a "symbolic gesture'? Would you have excused them if they had or would you instead trash them for doing it because they lacked the 'temperament' to deal with being the minority?

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Walkout
Oct 9, 2018 1:58PM PDT

I do not think walking out is the correct thing to do.
Repub or Dem does not matter.
With the election 30 days away pols say and do dumb stuff.
It's sort of like kneeling at the start of a sporting event.

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Two posts later, NOW you decide
Oct 9, 2018 2:17PM PDT

to state that you don't think it's the correct thing to do...but not until you excused it FIRST as just a 'symbolic gesture' and gave it a pass and not until I asked you to show me where ANY Republicans had walked out on a vote. Dems have done it before and even staged a freaking 'sit in'...…..WHEN do you actually show disdain for their behavior, Bob?

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Two post later
Oct 9, 2018 3:20PM PDT

I just came on to the forum sorry if I'm not prompt enough for you.
I did not excuse anything that's your typical made up stuff.
No wonder you like the Don so much you even talk like him
I don't look at the world through an anti-dem or anti-repub filter.
What congress types do is not worth carping about.

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"What congress types do is not worth carping about."
Oct 10, 2018 2:21AM PDT

And yet you do when it comes to Reps.

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Show me the posts about repubs
Oct 10, 2018 7:34AM PDT

I may have said something about Ryan's tax cut bill for the wealthy.

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Let me toss this into the mix.
Oct 7, 2018 8:51AM PDT

Judges [below SC of course] are often tasked with sentencing malefactors in view of repentance, amends made, etc. A successful life in the law might be brought up to minimize the sentence for a newly discovered crime of 30 years before. There's precedent for that, to coin a phrase. In a real case, someone could open the Bailiff's Bible and read Lu 6:41,42.
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An officer of the court who lies under oath is not one We the People should trust with further privileges of service. IMO only.
Lying under oath is indeed a felony, called perjury. IF evidence of such is discovered, IF it's brought before the Bar, IF the accusation stands up, then the lying becomes perjury, and appropriate penalties should be applied. Hypothetically, any promotion within the judicial system would be held back, at least until the penalty was served. Agreed?

I'm thinking along these lines because (a) Kavanaugh recently was under oath, and (b) answered questions factually - but the truth of those facts was called into question. The questions were about his actions of 30 years ago. The gist was, I think,
'Did you get drunk?'
'No!'
Several people, not under oath as I recall, said 'Yes!'

The FBI was called in, as is only right in cases of perjury at the Federal level. It investigated ... his alleged assaults, not any alleged perjury. Found nothing actionable.

That's feeling up women, a dastardly act. Done all the time. Go to #MenArePigsYesWeAreDon'tAttemptToDenyIt for confirmation.

In my opinion, 'feeling up' 30 years ago doesn't hold a candle to perjury last week. If those who said the lies were real are correct then the FBI investigated the wrong crime, the much less serious one. And, no Agent worth the money we pay him would fail to see the possibilty of perjury. [Which is no longer actionable after 30 years, right?]

I doubt that happened. I'm a man unlettered and ordinary, yet I found evidence of perjury, mostly from comments on SE. If the lettered and extraordinary Special Agents did not, did not even investigate, then I was wrong and there was no perjury. There may have been lying, but not of the actionable kind.
That is where the matter stands.
Fact-based comments?

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Next-to-last ¶.
Oct 7, 2018 8:55AM PDT

I meant of course that the assaults are no longer actionable, not the perjury.

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Perjury
Oct 7, 2018 10:00AM PDT

If the dems take the house I suspect this issue will be looked into.

If they don't then I doubt much will be done.

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I'd rather whomever holds the house
Oct 7, 2018 10:10AM PDT

focus on such things that impact the everyday lives of "We, the People", than to prioritize the seeking of revenge for losing in their attempt to block the confirmation of this judge.

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So would I
Oct 7, 2018 10:36AM PDT

But that's not how the political game is played.

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I understand your view, but IMO bringing up
Oct 7, 2018 11:06AM PDT

a valid claim of perjury isn't revenge. It's zeal for the law.
Motives, of course, are truly known only to Jehovah.

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you mean Jesus
Oct 7, 2018 12:12PM PDT

"no man comes to the Father but by him", you can find the passage, and look for Mediator too.

Compare his memory to C Ford's "memory". Stuff from 36 years ago. She's like zero recall of before the party, suddenly 100% recall in middle of party, then back to zero recall of after the party. Her therapist forgot to do more hypnotic soothsaying to "recover" enough to make the false implanted memory credible.

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... says the man who left school without
Oct 7, 2018 2:02PM PDT

a preposition to his name ...