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Breaking news. Romney won't run in '16

Jan 30, 2015 4:59AM PST

I think it might be because the 47% has now grown to where they don't need any more help to elect whoever they want. Devil Happy

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According to what he
Jan 30, 2015 5:17AM PST

may have said in an interview this morning (not sure which show), he and his wife decided that since the liberals/Dems have already begun vomiting up the same type of crap they dished out last time, it wasn't worth that effort to defend himself all over again when there are real issues he would have run on for his platform. I've spotted at least one ad that Dems had put out already that is a repeat ad from the last go-round so I suspect he's correct......he would have to spend too much time debating/arguing garbage again rather than have a serious campaign because those old hits would just keep coming in order to keep the focus on the old sludge.

I still think that Walker is going to be the 'sleeper' that nobody sees coming until all of a sudden his name is actually recognized across the country.

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RE: According to what he may have said
Jan 30, 2015 5:33AM PST
According to what he may have said in an interview this morning

May have said?

I hope you're not denying that Romney said he is NOT running for President in 2016.

Does it really matter "why"...he's NOT running...let HIM give reasons/excuses.....he's NOT RUNNING.
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"At this point, what difference does it make"?
Jan 30, 2015 5:49PM PST

Does it matter to you that he was right in most of what he stated during his campaign and the debates he had with BO and that BO has proven himself to be wrong?

I agree with Steven.....although there were some concerns about his foreign policy, he at least had one, and it/he was far better than what we ended up with. BO, at this point in time, is doing nothing but biding his time anxious for the next person to come along and try to clean up, just as he promised to do after Bush and failed miserably at, and, in fact, made things much worse.

No, I do not deny that he's not running....and I can't blame him for that decision if the one ad I saw from the Dems the other day would have been an indication of how they would try again to smear him rather than actually debate the issues. The lies had already begun again.....and to be honest, I think the strain of what the Dems tried to do to him was more debilitating for his wife's health than the actual campaign was and that has to still be a real concern for him and his family on a personal level.

If the liberal media had done as good a job at digging into BO's background and his record as they did against Romney, BO wouldn't have had a chance in hell of getting elected. I suspect the same will happen again when it comes to HC..........but I said it before. HC in 2008 would have been a far better choice if a Dem was going to be elected than BO.....although she is still far more left than I prefer, I would hope that her husband's ability to actually work with the other side would have influenced her. It worked well for BC.....too bad BO is so arrogant that his personal feelings are more important to him than the country he was sworn in to care for.

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I'm glad to see you agree with Hillary.
Jan 30, 2015 8:18PM PST

He's not running for President....He'll pick who he thinks will win, support them, and IF they win he gets a plum job(not that he needs the money...one that keeps him in the spotlight, Like "The Donald"). Kinda like Kerry.

I can't blame him for that decision if the one ad I saw from the Dems the other day would have been an indication of how they would try again to smear him rather than actually debate the issues.

Just try and imagine what it's like for the Democrats...having FOX News on their trail....FOX the #1 in News? in America.

FOX....... if they aren't talking about you, they're talking about the opposition(liberal media).

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"He gets a plum job"???? Opinions
Jan 30, 2015 8:49PM PST

or speculation is approved if YOU are the one doing it? I'll keep this post handy to remind you later IF it doesn't happen the way you say it will......like you do with my 'lawsuits' speculation. (BO broke the law by telling the companies to hold off on those pink slips, but that's beside the point to you, I guess).

I have never agreed with HC, in case you haven't noticed. I agreed with some of the decisions her HUSBAND made when he realized that Republicans in Congress were right during his second term and made changes to his domestic policies and wound up with a surplus in the deficit (NOT the National Debt, mind you). I just stated that HC would have been the lesser of the two evils if Dems were going to win in 2008 because perhaps her husband would have been able to influence her enough to not totally ruin the country with her leftist agenda.

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YOU don't have an "opinion"
Jan 30, 2015 9:02PM PST

Your opinions are "facts" according to you.

and IF they win he gets a plum job

Is a Llooonnnnngggg way from

"When the lawsuits start, I'll let you know, because they ARE coming."

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Actully, it's not a loooonnng way, JP
Jan 30, 2015 10:00PM PST

YOUR words exactly: >>> He'll pick who he thinks will win, support them, and IF they win he gets a plum job>>>

Sure sounds like what you consider to be a FACT, doesn't it?

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Well IF the REPUBLICAN that gets elected President
Jan 30, 2015 10:50PM PST

doesn't give Romney a "plum job"....... I WILL

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PS.......In case some are wondering
Jan 30, 2015 10:59PM PST

I'll purchase a plum ranch

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That still won't erase the WWW fact that you
Jan 30, 2015 11:09PM PST

originally stated, will it?

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I didn't say he WILL get
Jan 30, 2015 11:21PM PST

I said

and IF they win he gets a plum job...

Also dependent upon his choice (the star he hooks his wagon to) being selected by the Republicans, THEN the Republicans have to win the election.....2 qualifiers and then you think "gets" is definite?

3a : to seek out and obtain <hoped to get

"hoped" to get plum job.

"get" is not definite....Unless it used this way

You just don't get it.

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Nope, YOU don't get it.....
Jan 31, 2015 1:14AM PST

As in any campaign, he may start off 'picking' one (nothing has been said publicly as to if he has a favorite right now), but IF that one isn't picked and another IS, Romney will support the party and back THAT one instead.....it works the same way with the Dems......Right now he appears to be supporting more than a couple of them but has 'picked' none.

So.....as long as a Republican (any one of those running) gets elected, and he is right now supporting more than one, you have stated that he 'will get a plum job'. You never stated that ONLY the one that he originally supports MUST be the one to win. YOU used the term "THEM".....Remember please, that Romney has been out campaigning for more than one.

That's what happens when you are vague........you presume to win either way, but it actually works against you because you LOSE either way. All the better though if one he originally picks DOES win.

My personal opinion is that Walker will eventually get the nod.......what about you?

EOD

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RE: what about you?
Jan 31, 2015 4:05AM PST

EOD

How does THAT work?

You ask a question then say End Of Discussion.

I respond and you don't respond?

Like that's gonna happen.

right now he is supporting more than one

We have a saying up here....Are you going to fish or cut bait? Another saying is, "Do something or get off the pot." Pick one...I dare him.

He'll pick who he thinks will win, support them, and IF they win he gets a plum job

The "winner" is "they"

When ONLY ONE person can WIN....."them" AND "they" is singular NOT plural.

I know you don't want a grammar lesson, so,here's a "comprehension lesson"

Singular they is the use of they, or its inflected or derivative forms, such as them, their, or themselves, to refer to a single person or an antecedent that is grammatically singular. It typically occurs with an antecedent of indeterminate gender, as in sentences such as:

"The patient should be told at the outset how much they will be required to pay."

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Incorrect grammar....
Jan 31, 2015 4:26AM PST

"PatientS should be told what THEY will have to pay"

Correct: A patient should be told what he/she will have to pay

Yours is just another example of liberals fracturing the English language.....like 'ebonics'.....The dictionary is just chock full of slang/fracturing/'dirty words' in order to be pc and 'up-to-date'....but have a kid use any of the words that are 'filtered' here in SE in school, and they are given detentions or worse. Go figger..........

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Not so
Jan 31, 2015 4:39AM PST

In reply to "Incorrect grammar....", the grammar is correct.

The phrase used was, "The patient should be told at the outset how much they will be required to pay."

Since we don't know the sex of the patient it is perfectly correct to use "they".

As has already been explained, in this case "they" refers to the singular and is grammatically correct.

Nothing to do with Liberals, although I am surprised that a conservative like you allows errors of grammatical fact to creep in to your replies. Conservatives are always so concerned with the erosion of values, aren't they.

Long before the use of generic he was condemned as sexist, the pronouns they, their, and them were used in educated speech and in all but the most formal writing to refer to indefinite pronouns and to singular nouns of general personal reference, probably because such nouns are often not felt to be exclusively singular: If anyone calls, tell them I'll be back at six. Everyone began looking for their books at once. Such use is not a recent development, nor is it a mark of ignorance. Shakespeare, Swift, Shelley, Scott, and Dickens, as well as many other English and American writers, have used they and its forms to refer to singular antecedents. Already widespread in the language (though still rejected as ungrammatical by some), this use of they, their, and them is increasing in all but the most conservatively edited American English. This increased use is at least partly impelled by the desire to avoid the sexist implications of he as a pronoun of general reference

Mark

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RE: Romney will support the party and back THAT one instead.
Jan 31, 2015 11:42PM PST

The Party?....The Republican "party" or the The "Tea Party"?

It's all about "the Party"...Which party?

Boehner lukewarm on Romney presidential run

House Speaker John Boehner, who has publicly declared his support for a Jeb Bush presidential run, was hardly enthusiastic about the idea of former GOP nominee Mitt Romney jumping into the race.

The same way the Tea Party supported Boehner when choosing the "new speaker"?

John Boehner: Tea Party makes money by targeting me

House Speaker John Boehner says Tea Party supporters who like to criticize him for not being conservative enough are targeting him to make money.

That strategy, Boehner contends, "works. They raise money, put it in their pocket and pay themselves big salaries."

Boehner won a third term as House speaker earlier this month, but 25 Republicans voiced objections to his leadership by voting for someone else.

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I'm glad he made that decision for himself and family
Jan 30, 2015 6:24AM PST

I had my concerns about him last time but I thought he was far better than the other choice. He comes off as a genuinely nice guy and honest person. He'd have definitely done a better job with getting businesses back on track, IMO. That's his forte. I don't know about his foreign policy ability as that's really more about who you know than who you are. I know we got a jello spine in who we elected but I'm not convinced Romney would do much better. We'd need to cross our fingers that nothing important happened but now we have ISIS to contend with. That will be left for the next person and the existence of ISIS will be blamed on Bush.