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***** popping out..What's the big deal???.....must be with 161 replies so far....:(.....NT

Feb 4, 2004 10:50PM PST

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(NT) LOL, if you ask me, ALL the performers that night were *****
Feb 4, 2004 11:08PM PST

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Yep, agree about that on the half time show....pre game show OK.
Feb 5, 2004 4:15AM PST

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(NT) I didn't see the pre-game show. Who was on it?
Feb 5, 2004 5:40AM PST

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Beyonce Knowles sang The Star-Spangled Banner, and Willie Nelson with Toby Keith
Feb 5, 2004 10:56AM PST

sang. Josh Groban sang, but I had to go outside and missed him.

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Re: Beyonce Knowles sang The Star-Spangled Banner, and Willie Nelson with Toby Keith
Feb 5, 2004 10:58AM PST

Hi, JR.

>>Josh Groban sang, but I had to go outside and missed him.<<
Too bad, his "You raise me up" tribute to the astronauts was both excellent and touching.

-- Dave K, Speakeasy Moderator
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Saw and heard one of my fav's..Josh, but missed two of my other fav's...Willie and Toby..wouldn't you know it, lol...NT
Feb 5, 2004 11:55AM PST

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If it's any consolation
Feb 5, 2004 12:25AM PST

I haven't even opened those threads which discuss it (until this one), let alone read or written to them. Mention the name of any member of the Jackson family, my stomach turns and I have to reach for the sick bowl.

I told JR the Superbowl was no big deal here (they tried introducing American Football as a mainstream sport here in the 1980's - it failed dismally), and from what you guys have been putting in your topic headers, I clearly missed nothing worth seeing, least of all some cheap slapper who doesn't know how to keep her scaffolding intact.

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Re: If it's any consolation
Feb 5, 2004 11:02AM PST

Hi, Dale.

>>I clearly missed nothing worth seeing<<
Actually, the pre-game entertainment was excellent (see above), and the game itself was one of the most exciting Super Bowls in many years.

-- Dave K, Speakeasy Moderator
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you overlooked: cheap slapper.
Feb 5, 2004 8:53PM PST

She's a millionaire.

and laughing at every post as she makes her way to the bank.

Ian

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nt since when did cheap slapper have anything to do with money?
Feb 5, 2004 9:05PM PST

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Re:***** popping out..What's the big deal???.....must be with 161 replies so far....:(.....NT
Feb 5, 2004 3:54AM PST

161 and, er, counting...

Regards
Mo

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(NT) Message has been deleted.
Feb 5, 2004 3:18PM PST
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Re: What's the big deal???.....
Feb 5, 2004 4:12AM PST

Well, it was so fast on TV that I blinked and missed it but wife saw. The photo to me seems like it was too round and fully packed with something. "Big deal"...well I like to view 'real' *****, even in push-up bras, although ***** has nothing to do with how good a gal is sexually. Wink

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lol We are officially in a weird area! - nt
Feb 5, 2004 4:14AM PST

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(nt) Maybe for you. Seems natural for JR.
Feb 5, 2004 6:17AM PST

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JR: ? Checked sales of Playboy lately. Hustler? whatever. Cosmopolitan for the ladies. Get real, James. nt
Feb 5, 2004 8:56PM PST

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You are clueless
Feb 6, 2004 1:27AM PST

on what I meant. Nuff said.

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What did you mean? - nt
Feb 6, 2004 2:56AM PST

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Reply to...
Feb 5, 2004 3:20PM PST
this message.

"If a poll were taken in SE of all members I think 4-5 people would agree with what you have to say, some would be in the middle and a majority would find your posts on sex to be vulgar and disgusting." - Glenda

Could that be due to the average age of the members in SE? I have no clue what the average age is, but AFAIK it's way above what I thought when I joined. I found most post very immature, but have realized with the time that it is not a bunch of MTV-generation. And notice, there is nothing wrong with getting older, but sometimes the older generations have less understanding for these issues.
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Nope WRONG
Feb 5, 2004 8:07PM PST

Your insinuation that the uproar is because of age is barely misses being age discrimination and derogatory. The little disclaimer that there is nothing wrong with getting older doesn't cover your insult.

Granted, the values are generally different at 20 and 50. But few peoples values stay the same all their live, views of what is appropriate for the situation may change.

"...there is nothing wrong with getting older, but sometimes the older generations have less understanding for these issues."

WRONG

Most may have a different view of things than you, that does not mean they understand the issue less. You're implying that because their view is not what you or others would consider modern (or perhaps progressive) they don't understand.

Let me know how you feel about that in 20 years, ok?

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Oh, come on, Roger
Feb 5, 2004 9:06PM PST

A large, very large, number of Americans have made a disgusting comment: a woman's breast is a damaging thing for a child to see.

For lucky children, its the first thing other than mommy's face they learn to recognise!!!!!!!!!!

Deliberately misinterpreting anything Charlie says to make yourself a hero was started by Edward way way back before he got addicted to the fish adverisement.

Get real. There are people in the world who do not consider what happened to be bad, and we are not all perverts.

Ian

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Re:oh come on ian
Feb 5, 2004 9:20PM PST

you are deliberately twisting things here!

nobody but nobody said this #a woman's breast is a damaging thing for a child to see#.... you might want to check again ian *or buy a ladder, cos that hole is gettin awfuh deep massah*

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Most are not perverts, just sinners
Feb 6, 2004 1:52AM PST

who are still blind to their sin. The rest of the world are also sinners, but they know it.

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Re: Most are not perverts, just sinners -- just a little judgemental, no?
Feb 6, 2004 2:30AM PST

Hi, KP.

Once again, the assumption that your values are right and everyone else's are wrong if they don't agree with yours. Many of those you label sinners are Christian, too -- but have a different view from you as to the relative importance of different aspects of His message.

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You want to read 'judgemental' posts look at some by this Dave K. guy...
Feb 6, 2004 5:54AM PST

you are a pot calling a kettle black Dave.

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Read the post Dave. I said ALL are sinners. Even me. Yes, that may be judgemental,
Feb 6, 2004 6:17AM PST

but it's the Bible's judgement not mine. Also, I'm saying that a normal situation is being described rather than a perverted one. Do you prefer the the word 'perverted' in describing the behaviour?

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PS: Perhaps you can point me to the passage where
Feb 6, 2004 6:28AM PST

Jesus approves of trashy lyrics (I'll have your body naked by the end of this song), seductive dancing, and a simulated sexual assault. Those who think such things are 'not bad' (I think that's what Ian said) are indeed sinners blind to their sin. They may not think so, but that doesn't alter the truth of the statement.

What do the 'other' Christians, you refer to, think of sin? Do they think it's real? Do they think it's the common human condition? Do they think they are without sin?

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Forgiven......
Feb 6, 2004 9:50AM PST

By God's Grace and the blood of Jesus Christ.

Glenda

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Amen. (may it be so) (NT)
Feb 7, 2004 10:40AM PST

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Re: PS: Perhaps you can point me to the passage where
Feb 6, 2004 12:52PM PST

Hi, KP.

I've said I didn't think much of that halfime display. Not sure that I'd call it sinful or evil -- just vulgar and tasteless. But the issue we're into now is whether the nude body and sexuality itself are ipso facto evil. Have you ever seen Hair? I'm sure you know that there's a nude scene -- everyone does. But it's not sexual, lewd, or lascivious. The cast simply stands on the stage, drops their robes, while singing
"What a piece of work is man, how noble in reason..."

Unfortunately, there's a long Christian history, dating back to the accomodations made with the Albigensian Heresy back at the time of the Black Death. The Albigensians believed that the world and the flesh were in themselves evil, and even denied the divinity of Christ. It was at that time that the Catholic Church (which was still all of Western Christendom) began to teach that sex is evil, and only justified for the purpose of procreation. BTW, the Eastern (Orthodox) Churches missed that influence, and do not have the same emphasis on morality as primarily involving sexuality.

-- Dave K, Speakeasy Moderator
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The opinions expressed above are my own,
and do not necessarily reflect those of CNET!