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BIOS will not boot -- unusable?

Hey all. This has never happened to me before and I'm freaking out about it just a little bit.

I have a GIGABYTE GA-Z77-D3H mobo rev 1.0. Intel I5-3570K processor. nVidia GTX750 TI GPU. 750 volt power supply. Windows 10 Pro x64.

So, I went into the BIOS Setup and enabled Intel Virtualization. Afterward, the PC turns on, shows the BIOS screen ... and that's it. It will not move from there. It also does not respond to any key commands.

I've tried the following:
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000005930/boards-and-kits/desktop-boards.html
&
https://superuser.com/questions/1141050/how-to-force-gigabyte-motherboard-to-boot-in-the-backup-bios-by-shorting-pins-on (Methods 1 & 2)

The BIOS is still unresponsive after clearing the CMOS via battery removal. It will not boot past the splash screen. I cannot get it to respond to use its Q-FLASH utility either. Is it a foregone conclusion at this point that the motherboard is unusable?

Any help here is very much appreciated. Thanks in advance.

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It could be something else.

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I've seen this with various OTHER CAUSES. I'll toss them out there because there is no way I can tell you which it is or if any apply. Ready?

1. The CMOS battery is low and stopping the boot. I continue to be amazed at how many times this happens or how many times folk want me to test the 25 cent battery. But hey, I can do that for another 20 minutes on the clock and bill. Here's the video on how:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMQI5R79lx4

2. The CMOS clear jumper was missing the metal inside the jumper. Rare, but happens and a real time sink.

3. Something else is wrong or failed. This takes time but if I must suspect the board I want nothing but the board and minimal parts to call it a bad board. I usually go for beeps with just the board, CPU+HSF, PSU and speaker. It must beep in protest to tell me to start adding a part then another testing as I go.

4. Sometimes you do test 3 and no beeps. The motherboard is removed from the case and placed on cardboard. Along with minimal parts and again for the beep test. WHY WHY WHY? Because you will encounter machines with EXTRA mounting posts that shorted out the backside.
Get ready for the owner to tell you "But it worked for years!" Sorry folk, the paint can wear through and bam, down it goes.

You get the idea here. Downsize and then you know.

5. It could be the PSU. PSUs are cheap compared to most boards so your tech shop will eventually have a spare. At the very least you have a Volt meter to check if the legs are good.

6. I didn't write a thing about the ATX12V connection. Always be sure it's in there if the system has one.

7. Just go ahead and unplug and plug things back in. It's dead, you can't kill it and a joke among engineers is "Why do they call these connectors?"

Hope this gives you some ideas.

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In regards to your first point

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I was given some other advice to try booting up the PC without the battery in it. I tried that, it turned on and rebooted itself quickly a couple of times, then came back to the same BIOS splash with the same issues. Could it be that the battery needs to be replaced?

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I supplied a lengthy video on how to test that battery.

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Here I don't unless paid to do so. Otherwise it's a 25 cent part. I can't guess why much time is spent on this part. But you are getting closer to what's up.

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Not sure what I was supposed to take away from the video

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I don't have any sort of devices to check the battery, nor do I have any interest in obtaining one. Was the point to say that eventually the battery dies out over time? I don't think you need a video for that.

Furthermore, the person in the video mentioned something about 300 hours for one of those batteries. I use my PC very frequently, and have done so since July 2012 when I got it. So if I estimate the PC to be on at least 12 hours a day for the past 5+ years, that's well over 22,000 hours that it's gone strong.

It seems very strange to me that the battery would suddenly die after applying a change to the BIOS, and not be a fault in the setting itself or with the motherboard.

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I've run into folk that

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Don't want to spend the 25 cents or have me test it. As what happens varies with the system we get to test what happens with old batteries. I'm not sure what good that is other than to test and see what happens.

It seems you've convinced yourself it's not the battery, you don't want to change it in spite of the low cost and well, I've subscribed to see what happens next.

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Should have stayed gone

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This whole time I didn't even bother to look at the name of who's been replying to my posts. Good old Robert Proffitt, I should've known as much.

It's been about 4 years since I posted anything here and you are the reason for that. I doubt you remember the post where I called our your terrible attitude and mindset when it comes to "helping" people with their tech issues. All I ever remember getting is a bunch of arrogant attitude and a sense of self-superiority from you. You look down on people and think they're idiots for asking for help -- in a HELP forum.

Of course you would come here with answers overwrought with your own personal quips and thoughts when you could just plainly tell me what needs to be done. You keep driving home "25 cent battery" like I'm supposed to know their price. Oh look they're actually $3-4 when you buy them individually so you're wrong. Instead I get, "I'll subscribe here to see what happens" like you can't wait for an "I told you so."

This place is like the McDonald's of help forums. Lots of people come through here and some people get what they wanted, but you certainly won't find any friendliness or "service with a smile." I've gotten much better help on other forums regarding this issue anyway.

I knew I was taking the risk of you showing up yet again. Honestly, I thought and hoped you'd have been gone by now. Sorely mistaken. It blows my mind that you're even still around, and that enough people would've have gotten sick of you to get rid of you or you wouldn't have gotten sick enough of the people to just leave. Won't be back to see any more of your arrogance.

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It's a common problem when folk want only

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I do run into folk that want only the right and answer and don't want to work from the cheapest more likely items and then onwards to harder items.

If you go down that road I find the techs that swap boards before the 25 cent battery.

I really try to save you from those folk.

Any how, I'm here for you if you want to keep going.

Post was last edited on January 15, 2018 1:48 PM PST

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my pc is not showing display either

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Motherboard: MSI Z270 SLI PLUS
CPU: Intel Celeron 3900 Skylake Dual Core
GPU: Windforce OC 1070
PSU: Sentey 725w
RAM: DDR4 EVO Potenza
SSD: 250gb Kingston
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first time boot and no leds, all fans are on, and keyboard lights are on

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Avoid posting in other threads.

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I think you posted elsewhere and this thread is for the ant. If you have ideas for the ant, add those but avoid thread hijacking.

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Should have stayed gone

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Mr coldscroll /I think I can speak for others that your attitude shows you should have stayed gone. You ask for help and bob ,who can't put his hands on your computer, gives you good suggestions and you pretty much say I know it's can't be that. I read almost every post that is put on these forums an I see many of the people posting with an attitude as yours. you. know you won't hurt my feelings if you stay gone.

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I'd like to find out how you fix this one.

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We all learn when you share. I share freely as I am an electronics designer and am called on by my friends in their repair shops for tough cases. My only attitude here is to try to save your wallet from getting thinner. Even if we have to drop a quarter to rule out a common item.

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I think you meant TheAnt317

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Although I agree with your post.
Dafydd.

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