Thank you for being a valued part of the CNET community. As of December 1, 2020, the forums are in read-only format. In early 2021, CNET Forums will no longer be available. We are grateful for the participation and advice you have provided to one another over the years.

Thanks,

CNET Support

Alert

Big Hole Hole in Windows 7 thru 10

May 11, 2017 12:03PM PDT
http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2017/05/11/microsoft-scrambles-to-fix-worst-windows-issue-in-recent-memory.html

""The security hole affects PCs and computer systems running Windows 7, Windows 8.1, Windows 10, and Windows Server 2016 and Microsoft software products running on those systems and exploits the Microsoft Malware Protection Engine included on Windows 7 and later. The vulnerability can be triggered “if the Microsoft Malware Protection Engine scans a specially crafted file,” according to the Microsoft Security Advisory. That could include email and web sites. That is, anything this is scanned by the Malware Protection Engine.

There’s a hole in Windows big enough that Microsoft did an emergency fix this week.

Called the “worst Windows remote code exec in recent memory” and "crazy bad" by the Google security expert that discovered it, the malware requires no interaction from a user."
(more)

Discussion is locked

- Collapse -
Interesting.. I Saw No Emergency Update On Monday
May 11, 2017 4:21PM PDT

Only the traditional Patch Tuesday updates were released here and only May 9 dates were assigned to those Windows Updates. Cumulative updates and an update to Flash Player. And there's no mention of the fix in Microsoft's knowledge base article for the cumulative update received on May 9. The article link is below:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4016871/windows-10-update-kb4016871

There is an update to Windows Defender in the Windows Update Security Guide below, on page 5, but that's all. The update to Defender is usually a definitions update.

https://portal.msrc.microsoft.com/en-us/security-guidance

Of course, it's possible the new scan engine version for Defender was included in that update. It just doesn't show it.

Strange.

Grif

Post was last edited on May 11, 2017 4:34 PM PDT

- Collapse -
Maybe they wanted to get the .....
May 11, 2017 10:14PM PDT
- Collapse -
My Defender Is Disabled So I Didn't Get the Earlier Update
May 12, 2017 8:25AM PDT

Bob B's info below may explain why all my dates here are for May 9 only. No updates have been applied to Defender on my machines. Others may have a different story.

It's good they thanked the researchers, as they should.

Hope this helps.

Grif

Post was last edited on May 12, 2017 8:25 AM PDT

- Collapse -
I have always had Defender activated as my AV
May 12, 2017 8:29AM PDT

And all of my updates are marked May 9th. I thought I was getting no updates at all.....

- Collapse -
Actually, I have to amend that
May 12, 2017 8:34AM PDT

Every update is marked 4/26

- Collapse -
I may have fixed that
May 12, 2017 8:43AM PDT

I have Win 10 Pro and looked into update settings.
I had it paused until 5 /31 , I turned off the pause and am now downloading a bunch of updates ...

- Collapse -
Fixed
May 12, 2017 8:53AM PDT

Defender updated just now to latest version
and
2017-05 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1703 for x64-based Systems (KB4016871)
and
2017-05 Security Update for Adobe Flash Player for Windows 10 Version 1703 for x64-based Systems (KB4020821)

- Collapse -
Appears Like It's Only A Vulnerability For Users of Defender
May 11, 2017 4:45PM PDT

If Windows Defender was/is disabled, such as those that use a separate Antivirus/Antimalware, then the Defender scan engine doesn't engage and it won't scan the specially crafted file, therefore the vulnerability wouldn't have caused a problem.

My experience with other antivirus companies is that, although definitely serious, scan engine vulnerabilities happen occasionally and are always fixed as soon as possible.

Hope this helps.

Grif

- Collapse -
Defender
May 12, 2017 3:26AM PDT

It looks like if defender is turned off the scan engine does not get updated.

If in the future you turn on defender you may be running a vulnerable version until winupd supplies the update.