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Best solution for viewing problem sites?

Oct 29, 2006 7:51PM PST

I have ongoing problems with viewing sites like the following:

http://getautomatix.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page&Itemid=30

Problems most frequently seen in Firefox because that's the browser I use, but, can make similar comments about viewing from IE7. At the moment, I happen to be working from Ubuntu so IE* is not even the picture.

Common charateristics of the sites are:
-black background
-red text for links
-relatively small fonts in white or, shudder, gray for plain body text.

Zooming text usually makes the body text legible but if zoomed enough can break site layouts.

View -> Page Style -> No Style makes all text visible but renders layouts in ''interesting'' ways.

Most recent fix I tried was increasing my base resolution from 1024x768 to 1280x1024 and bumping font sizes in Edit -> Preferences -> Content -> Fonts & Colors -> Advanced to 20pt for proportional and 16pt for fixed.

The font size was increased to offset the effect of increasing resolution. Basically zooms text automatically for new pages. Still need to zoom more for some sites, but, after some experimentation, seemed to be the best default setting for me.

Any comments / tips much appreciated.

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It's the site...
Oct 30, 2006 12:04AM PST

It's simply how the site was designed...black background, red links, grey text, etc. The only thing you can do is what some have done to change the light blue links here in the Cnet forums...use Greasemonkey, which should also work on Ubuntu, providing you're not using the LiveCD option.

Hope this helps,
John

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About what I figured, in fact...
Oct 30, 2006 12:50AM PST

I posted this question on the forum when I started to look into Greasemonkey this morning.

I finally bit the bullet and made it my project of the day.

I am working with Greasemonkey off of my test Ubuntu 6.10 hard disk install. Can't break it. It is scheduled for complete rebuild as soon as I have finished testing the 6.10 changes and setup requirements. Probably by the weekend.

Pretty straightforward so far. Right now building a library of existing scripts. Fastest way I know to get things working is to re-use something that is already doing, or close to doing, what I need.

Expect to have my rendering problems with at least this site fixed today. Important because I need to get there tool checked out this week.

Also added pending project to Monkey with Cnet. I WILL get those gd'd fixed table row heights fixed so zoomed text won't overlap. After that, who knows. Wink

Thanks for the feedback.

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Spoke too soon
Oct 30, 2006 9:06PM PST

I did manage to trash Firefox on Ubuntu. However, I was testing so many other changes concurrently can't point the finger at what I was doing with Greasemonkey. In fact, am almost sure it was not the cause. Best guess is a minor applet I added which I suspect messed up Gnome notifier.

Also finding that using Greasemonkey is more of an art than a science at this point. Looks like it is going to turn into project of the week. Which is really unfortunate, I already had one of those going.

LOL. Took a break from this to catch up on other Microsoft releases. WMP11 was finally out and wanted to play with it. I was too tired to think clearly and this was a good reason to play / rip some new CDs and catch up on some TV episodes.

Might even find the right thread to pull in GM. Things usually look better in the morning.

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Well. Working but real problem was...
Nov 3, 2006 11:16PM PST

the monitor I was using. Replaced the monitor and suddenly I am no longer seeing through a glass darkly.

The project was well worth the effort however.

Got into Adblock Plus as simple way to clean up a lot of annoying ads around some sites and a simple way to see the elements on any page.

Improved my Javascript skills a lot.

Learned Greasemonkey.

Went a long way to reducing eye-strain from prolonged computer use. Should have replaced the monitor a while ago but it had degraded so gradually I had not really thought of it as a problem.

Live and learn.