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Best point-and-shoot camera for live music?

Oct 8, 2013 11:32AM PDT

I go to a lot of live music shows and I film them with my little Canon Ixus 980 IS. Sound is fantastic but the image quality is starting to show its age compared with the new, super fancy HD compacts (and so is the sensor that is gathering way too many missing pixels). So here's the question: does anybody know of any recent models with similar sound quality performance?

I'm perfectly aware I'd be better off with a camcorder but that's not an option since most venues wouldn't admit it. It has to be something that can fit in a coat pocket.

Also I know the point-and-shoot market is not one where they're going to pour money on something that doesn't look good in a spec list (like a billion pointless megapixels do), but I lucked out with this one so there must be other models knocking about where they got that right even if it was by accident.

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Thanks for the info I'll start shopping !!!!!!!
Jan 4, 2014 5:33AM PST

Thanks I'll start shopping for something like that:
1080p in hd video
Great or high zoom
No DSLR
No Camcorders
No External Microphone
or things that could be banned form any venue oustide or indoor
The "one" that can work the best with the "low light" situation
But one last detail for the "audio" is there something I should look for
in my shopping for Point and shoot camera or photo/video camera
or it is what it is I should work with what I found ?

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Re: Thanks for the info I'll start shopping !!!!!!!
Jan 4, 2014 1:33PM PST

Mono better than stereo whenever you can is usually a good rule. A great deal of the distortion comes from having 2 channels, which they only do because it looks good on the specs list. That's why the Panasonics always fared better, because they kept the mono for a long time.

For low light better Canon than Sony all the time. I don't know how the Panasonics do in comparison though.

In terms of optics and resolution go for a nice, wide lens with a high optic zoom. Don't get bogged down about megapixels. That means nothing, and usually higher number of megapixels gets you grainier image.

The models that we've used are the Canon PowerShot SX270 HS (same as the one you posted but without the Wi-Fi and GPS) and the Sonys DSC-HX20V and DSC-HX50. The video I posted is filmed with that Canon but, as I said, it does distort with bass. I think I remember my friend who uses Sony said the 20 was better than the 50, but I'm not really sure. And the Panasonics you've already seen the kind of stuff you get.

I'd keep an eye for what Samsung, LG and other brands like that come up with because they're more for innovating and they're the ones who might come up with new setups. Samsung has definitely improved lenses a lot and has come up with new audio setups, but I don't know how they do.

I think I'd avoid the GoPros though.

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You wrote
Jan 4, 2014 9:18AM PST

That folk jump in, say no and shuts down the conversation. Are you telling me that no one is brave enough to jump in and give you "Go buy the Adlepro x21?" or any other model?

If there was such a camera, would folk have revealed it here or any other forum?

I am as gentle as I can be. I've shared links and more but it appears you are a gold miner at heart and want to believe there is gold in them hills.
Bob

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Re: You wrote
Jan 4, 2014 1:53PM PST

Medical research would be screwed if everybody thought like you...

It's not about bravery but if somebody opens a topic asking a question from their ignorance and somebody like you says "you're an ignorant, that doesn't exist and it will never exist" as if they knew what they're talking about then they will go away, the topic will get lost and nobody else will have the chance to see it and participate. And this being a very niche field there wouldn't be a lot of people willing to participate anyway, so you kill the topic from the start.

For starters you were already saying there was nothing better than the iPhone, which is wrong. How can you consider yourself to be in the know when the only actual, real piece of information you've given is wrong?

None of the links you've pasted had anything to do with filming or, in particular, with audio quality, which is what this topic is about. So you have been nowhere near to being helpful. If you have experience with a compact camera filming in loud environments or know somebody who has share it with us. If you find a comparison where they focus on the audio recording quality of compact cameras feel free to paste it. And, definitely, if you find good videos on YouTube filmed with compact cameras then bring them. Otherwise, seriously, shut up.

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Where did I write that?
Jan 5, 2014 11:34AM PST

I gave examples and own common point and shoot, a DSLR and a pair of audio recorders.

You seem to be offended by discussions that don't find, what was it called by another member? "The Unicorn."

When you find one, please answer all those that ask this question and be ready to share your videos.
Bob

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Re: Where did I write that?
Jan 6, 2014 9:13AM PST

You didn't give any real, fact-based examples whatsoever, just posted a couple of totally unrelated links.

I already shared a video that is way, way better than what you get with an iPhone, which you categorically and repeatedly stated (wrongly) was the best you could get.

I'm not offended by discussions that don't find what I want to find, I'm offended by people who are dismissive and unhelpful and, as I said before, this is at least the 3rd topic where I see you behaving like that. For starters it wasn't "another member" who came up with the unicorn thing, it was you. Which confirms that either you don't even bother to read what you write yourself or you just don't care.

An user called whythebarriers on another topic, having stated the difficulties and the reasons behind it, was so much more helpful and informative about his experience with audio in compact cameras. If it wasn't because that topic was closed I'd have joined in. I wish he had participated here instead of having this topic hijacked by you...

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Forgot this link. Times are changing.
Jan 8, 2014 4:04AM PST
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Re: Forgot this link. Times are changing.
Jan 8, 2014 9:58AM PST

Seriously, can you stop posting links that are not relevant to the discussion?

Not a single bit of info about audio or any of the questions this post is about. Have you even read the content of that article?

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I'm tracking this one.
Jan 8, 2014 10:01AM PST

Let's see what you buy.
Bob