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by ORTHOTIC / May 28, 2010 8:27 AM PDT

Okay, here goes. I am in-the-market for a 46" HDTV and have hit a brick wall. I guess it is paralysis by analysis. I am not ready to jump on the 3D craze quite yet. I am looking for the highest quality picture and sound for no more than say $2,000. I am leaning towards LED models but am open to all suggestions. Most recently I have focused on the 2010 Samsung UN46C6800 and 2009 UN46B8500 models, but the problem is I cannot find any reviews or customer feedback on the 2010 model. Any suggestions? Appreciate your time and help!

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3D TVs
by Dan Filice / May 28, 2010 8:38 AM PDT

By default, any 240hz TV, like the 8500 Samsung you are looking at, is 3D, so if you don't want 3D, skip that one. That Samsung is also a 240Hz TV, which I personally do not like. To me, a 120Hz TV is great without the weird processing artifacts that 240Hz creates for film-based content. If you want Star Wars to look like it was shot on a cheap home video camera, then 240Hz is for you.

Other than that, the "best" TV for you is the one that looks best to your eyes. Plasma get very high marks for looking the best and having the best motion and black levels. LED gets high marks for being the brightest and pumping colors to almost being oversaturated. LCD gets high marks for being good at everything but not being the best at most. Stay with brands like Sony, Samsung, Panasonic and you will be good.

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by ORTHOTIC / May 28, 2010 10:42 PM PDT
In reply to: 3D TVs

I appreciate your reply but am confused when you say all 240 hz models are by default 3D. Yes, the 2009 UN46B8500 is 240 hz but (not) a 3D model.

So what would you go with (brand and model) if you were me? I understand that all technologies (LCD, LED, Plasma) have their pros and cons but which comes out on top overall? I tend to keep my tvs for several years so would want something that is not obsolete in a few years. I know 3D is the craze now (and maybe the future) but I am not ready for this technology quite yet. Please advise.

Thanks for your time and help!

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If you don't have an extremely bright room
by minimalist / May 29, 2010 1:48 AM PDT

of you have decent shades to control the light I'd go with a Panasonic plasma. A 2K plasma will knock the socks off of an LED backlit model with local dimming that costs 2 times as much (the edge lit "ultra-thin" models aren;t as good as the ones with true local dimming and the local dimming models are the most expensive).

LED backlit LCD's can produce a fantastic picture, but you have to pay top dollar right now to match a plasma on performance. If you can't control the light however you may have to go LCD and live with a bit of compromise so you have a nice bright picture during the daylight hours. I have an LCD for just this reason (my living room is like a fishbowl). At night though those blacks are really just dark charcoal grey.

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I agree about Plasma
by Dan Filice / May 29, 2010 2:09 AM PDT

I was at a local home video store (Ken Kranes) with a friend who needs a TV and they had all the latest new models arrange very nicely where we could compare and to me, the Plasmas and Sony LCD Bravia had the best picture. The LED sets had pictures that were nice and bright, but all the colors were so over the top they just didn't look natural. This was very obvious when viewing flesh tones and reds.

What have you heard about 3D TVs? One major requirement of a 3D TV is that it needs to be 240Hz and that it have the latest HDMI 1.4 connection to match a "3D" DVD player. Other than that I'd like to know what you heard to make a TV 3D?

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I don;t know that much about 3d because honestly
by minimalist / May 29, 2010 2:41 AM PDT
In reply to: I agree about Plasma

I'm not that interested in that as much as I care about picture quality. I do believe 240hz is a requirement (on LCD's ...this isn't an issue on plasmas). I believe HDMI 1.4 is sometimes preferred but a lot of manufacturers are making 1.3 work. I think the resolution is reduced to make this happen (540p for each eye)

If i was going 3d I'd get one of the new Panasonic plasmas. That way you'd have a TV with great picture quality that just happened to work with 3d. I am skeptical as to whether 3d is really going to take off in the home (or even if its going to last in the theaters). People forget we have been here before several times (1950's and the early 1980's). Each time there was a flurry of 3d movies and lots of hype and then people tired of the gimmick and the studios moved on. All its going to take is a couple of flops (Piranha 3d anyone?) before the studios stop seeing 3d as a guaranteed cash cow.

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