Be The First On Your Block To Get On The Blacklist...

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

Dan

Come on! I'm sure lots of you thought of saying the same thing!

I would expect a comment like yours from those who always disagree with me and make it a point to try to make life as difficult and painful as possible. But I'm disappointed it came from you, Dan. I always try to respect the name people choose to go by and don't see any entertaining value when others refuse to offer the same respect...

I was trying to interject a light moment.

You're right.

Dan

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Ian

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with your attitude maybe they should.
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would you be the first?

This is one of the reasons we need gun laws in the first place. I hope an assault rifle never ends up in your hands.

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And are you aware that they have been effectively "banned" for several decades (with NRA Concurrence) excepting those few people who hold a federal permit?

Are you aware that ONLY ONE actual, legally owned, assault weapon has been used in a crime since the ban and that one was by a police officer?

Are you even remotely aware that a civilian version of the AK-47 or 74 is semi-auto ONLY and thus requires that the trigger be manipulated for each shot?

Are you aware that even prior to the banning of the so called "assault weapons" the banned firearms were very seldom used in any crime (you can verify that with the FBI who maintain the statistics or your own local/state police force).

From your comments I seriously doubt you are aware of much regarding firearms and the truth about them and their use although you seem to have picked up on the fabrications and statistical distortions of the anti- gun crowd.

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Does it look anything like this:

http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/Bushmaster_Rifles.html

Is that what this person used:

http://www.sunspot.net/news/local/crime/bal-te.md.sniper28oct28001545,0,418549.story

I'm thinking a people killing rifle used to assault people is an assault rifle. Dumb me.
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The Bushmasters are NOT Assault Rifles. NONE of them have selective or full auto capability. ALL are legal civilian semi-auto firearms.

Regarding the link to "Buttressing a prosecution claim that John Allen Muhammad was the triggerman in a handful of last fall's serial sniper killings, ...", another NOPE!

he used a civilian semi-auto rifle (happened to be a Bushmaster) and such ARE NOT "Assault Rifles". They are civilian versions of a military firearm that IS an assault rifle by virtue of its selective fire capabilities.

Is a saber an "assault weapon" by virtue of its APPEARANCE while a rapier or Samurai sword is not? Of course not but that COSMETIC similarity is exactly why Sara Brady and the other gun banners have convinced the gullible that the firearms in your first link at
http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/Bushmaster_Rifles.html are "Assault Rifles" (they are not) while these at these links are not (because they aren't military look-a-likes)
http://www.remington.com/firearms/centerfire/7400wd.htm
http://www.winchester-guns.com/prodinfo/catalog/detail.asp?cat_id=511&type_id=033&cat=009C
http://www.impactguns.com/store/ruger_1022.html
http://www.taurususa.com/products/product-details.cfm?model=M63R-SS&category=RIFLE
or even http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/firearms/category.asp?value=002B

ALL function EXACTLY the same and most are available in far larger calibers. They just don't "look ugly and dangerous" so they are not called "assault guns" by the gun banners and others lacking in their knowledge.

Would you call an air rifle an assault gun?

you simply have a comprehension problem apparently.

The NRA has stated that any weapon can be used for assault but that does not classify them as assault weapons.

Infoplease.com has simply taken up the abused terminology introduced by know nothing idiots and attempts to legitimise it much on the order of the bastardization of the word AWFULL. Use it improperly enough and get the improper usage recognized and the demonization is half done.

Can you name a single instance where the Bushmaster XM15-E2S has "found its way" into the hands of the general, non law enforcement/military public as you state has happened? Come on now, you said it happens so there must be some proof of it somewhere--try the FBI stats (although you won't find any indication of one it is always a good place to start).

The Bushmasters available for sell to the public are not assault rifles Blake although even they may well play on the market value of the word assault.

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I would hate to see Gooberjuice's hands on any kind of gun be it an assault rifle or not. They pretty much all can kill people, not?

On the same note a car in the hands of a drunk, drug user on a high or an enraged person is just as dangerous. I would say the car in that person's hands is an assault weapon.
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First, I would NOT call a car an "assault weapon" unless it was indeed designed as such (the French and British have a couple of cute but lethal ones).

You do seem to realise that regardless of emotive terminology used to demonize something it is THE SPECIFIC USER and not the object used that actually is responsible for any harm done.

Words have actually been used to kill and injure far more people throughout the course of history but I haven't seen movements by idiots such as Sarah Brady to ban education simply because "diplomats" have misused them and caused harm. Haven't seen movements to ban electric carving knives (the one finger twitch == multiple slices equivalent of an actual assault rifle and used in an equal or greater percentage of actual criminal acts) or hunting knives although they are quite often used specifically to harm others.

Edward, help me here. One of the things that classify a weapon as an assault rifle is the presence of a bayonet lug. For others who may not know what that means, it's a stud onto which you can mount a bayonet.
Edward, have you been able to find an incident of felon fixing his bayonet on his assault rifle and using it to bayonet someone in a a crime in fairly recent crime reports? I don't know, but if you go back 30 or more years ago, it might have happened sometime.
Sometimes the classification of what makes a weapon an "assault" one seems a bit strange to me.

According to the ATF, semiautomatic assault weapon means:
(B) a semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable

magazine and has at least 2 of --

(i) a folding or telescoping stock;

(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of

the weapon;

(iii) a bayonet mount;

(iv) a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a

flash suppressor; and

(v) a grenade launcher;

I said bayonet lug rather than bayonet mount, but that's just a military term. I still wonder about the number of cases where a felon fixed a bayonet and stabed someone in the commission of a crime.

First, Edward, neither the NRA nor the U.S. Army determines what is legally an assault weapon, the ATF does. The point is, Edward, if you have 2 on that list, it's an assault weapon. A rifle may not have a bayonet mount, but if it has one, any one other item on that list, it rings the bell.
Here is a link to an area down in the ATF site, type bayonet the the search box at the left and the top of the results show the ATF document I quoted. lots of other info easially available from that link. Link:
http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/

although he does tend to leap into these things when they are addressed to another and try to force the issue off on a tangent.

He also apparently doesn't see the sarcasm in your response subject line...

Actually J the military does determine the criteria for an assault weapon. That is why the Sheridan M551A1 ARAAV is an Assault Vehicle while the Patton M60A1 RISE is a tank and not an assault vehicle.

The ATF promotes and regulates what Congress passes as law and determines as "unsuitable" for the public. Their "guidance" on bayonet lug, grip, flash suppressor etc. come straight from the wording of the so called Assault Weapon Ban signed into law by Clinton.