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Question

Bare metal vs hosted in hypervisor?

Dec 3, 2014 3:48AM PST

what is the difference between these two in simple explanation and please no links just your understanding of this if you really understand this please answer this and no i will not Google this because all sources i came across are difficult to understand due to the writers assumed that the listeners understand there explanation and terminology please and thank you

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ok?
Dec 3, 2014 3:58AM PST

seriously stop commenting because you and bob are not helping me out you guys are always criticizing me and that's a waste of time so for now on i'm just going to ignore you and bobs comment peace

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How about Kees's Hotel room analogy?
Dec 3, 2014 4:02AM PST

Your questions are often a riddle. Maybe if you provided some context to where this question comes from then folk could frame the answer better for you.
Bob

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ooo
Dec 3, 2014 4:18AM PST

never mind i didn't realize i was talking to the same people don't need drama i'm hoping some one new will answer me peace but thanks tho later

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Answer
How odd is that!
Dec 3, 2014 3:56AM PST

Since we have to start with bare metal to install this hypervisor it appears you can't have the second without the first.

So my answer is yes, you'll want both for some reason.
Bob

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Re: both
Dec 3, 2014 3:59AM PST

I agree. You need a hotel to have rooms, don't you think (see my answer below)?

Kees

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Thanks for your kindness man
Dec 3, 2014 4:08AM PST

yeah but i'm confused tho they said that bare metal runs directly on the host computers hardware at first i was like OK it is making more sense but then i notice the other one aka the hosted one have the same features basically so those that mean that bare metal is in more in contact with hardware then the hosted one because i notice that they have a lot of the same features of each other for example you can both adjust the amount of ram and etc.. i'm just trying to understand in better detail why they are so different but yet they seem so alike

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Let's go with the hotel analogy.
Dec 3, 2014 4:15AM PST

While I would debate the term bare metal my bet the context is about web or other hosting.

With a dedicated server (what you may call bare metal) the entire hotel is yours. You get it all.
When you use a virtual private server (what you may be calling the hypervisor) you share the hotel and get your own room. The adjustments you wrote about is like setting the size of the room.
Bob

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Adjusting the size of the room.
Dec 3, 2014 4:24AM PST

It's even more like combining two small conference rooms into one by folding the foldable wall between them. Then you have twice as much space and can host a twice a big website (sorry, conference of course).

Kees

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Host system vs Guest system
Dec 3, 2014 4:53AM PST

Bare metal is the installed system controlling the computer. Anything else running on it in a virtual environment is in a 'box' aka "sandbox" and a guest system There are various names for the software that does this. Most include the word "virtual" at some point though. The bare metal is your hotel, the virtual systems are the rooms.

Investigate

Oracle's Virtual Box
Oracle's VMware
Microsoft's VPC 2004 and 2007
Microsoft's Hyper-V in recent windows editions

This also extends to a server which allows "clients", typically called "thin clients" to run their own software from the server where the client installs it. It's a "virtual system" to the bare metal server.

If you want to expand that, then google is your friend.

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Re: bare metal
Dec 3, 2014 3:57AM PST

Such explanations are meant for people who need to know the difference to make an informed decision about running real or virtual servers. Apparently you're not one of them. Since nobody here knows your level of expertise, it's impossible to know how simple such an explanation would have to be for you to understand.

That - and the clear irrelevance of the answer for anybody who is not faced with such a decision - makes me expect that you won't get an satisfactory answer here.

If you want an analogy: it's like living in your own home or living in a hotel room. Quite a difference.

Kees