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backup and recovery on my vaio

by mamontano / September 28, 2009 12:50 AM PDT

I have a sony vaio laptop vgn-aw125j with vista 64 os. I've
only had a few months and have not created backup disks yet.
I've read a little about acronis and norton save and restore
but i want to get some fresh opinions on what's working for
others. I suppose i should have make recovery disks onto dvd
when i 1st booted up but i didn't do this. Too late now i've
already put software and drivers on it for my peripheals. I'm
also looking for external harddrives for my backup location.
Any advice is much appreciated. I'm a novice when it comes to
this stuff.

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You should still be able to make
by Jonmor68 / September 28, 2009 8:45 AM PDT

the recovery disks, they are made from the restore partition. It won't effect what you have added and any hardware and software you added will need to be reinstalled after using the recovery disks.
You can use a disk image program like Acronis, to make an image of your system as it is on the day you make the image to another drive or to dvd's.
Using Acronis you can make an image of the whole hard drive from Windows and it's easy to use. You need to make a boot disk from the Acronis menu to restore the image to the same or another hard drive.

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acronis and external hard drive
by mamontano / September 28, 2009 8:33 PM PDT

Is this all i need so i can go out and purchase? Do i need dvd discs
as well?

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I didn't buy much.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / September 29, 2009 1:16 AM PDT
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windows backup and restore versus 3rd party disk imager
by mamontano / September 29, 2009 10:01 PM PDT
In reply to: I didn't buy much.

Can someone explain the differences? Previous poster is correct
about a hidden partiton with recovery disks but it's reccomended
to make a copy of these disks onto dvd so i'll go ahead and do that.
Will the windows tools bring everything backup the way it was if i have an issue or is 3rd party software better at doing this. TIA

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Will the windows tools bring everything backup the way it...
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / September 29, 2009 11:27 PM PDT

"Will the windows tools bring everything backup the way it was"?

I'm going with no. The Recovery Media will bring back the machine to the FACTORY CONDITION without all your files and added programs. This seems to confuse some. My thought on this is that people wanted better.

This is why we look at not only the Restore DVDs because that is what the machine's maker supports but add our own backup system because you only lose what you didn't backup.
Bob

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i think i'm getting there
by mamontano / September 29, 2009 11:41 PM PDT

I need to make recovery disks in case the hard drive is corrupted
and the laptop will not boot up to o.s. At this point the restore
function would not do any good. I think the restore function allows
you to use earlier configurations. Say i get onto my computer tonight
and it's acting strangely. I'm supposed to look for fixes or just
do a restore to previous day when the computer was functioning properly. Will not lose data, programs,config, etc. Backup will
save data in case hard drive goes bad and you lose pictures, music,
etc. Not sure about programs, drivers, configs with this one. Supposedly 3rd party imagers make boot disks that bring the computer
back to life and restore everything - programs, drivers, configs, pics, music, etc. Please correct me if i'm wrong.

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You're getting it.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / September 30, 2009 1:43 AM PDT

About System Restore. You only need to read this and other forums to learn that it's not reliable. In fact most malware will corrupt, disable or even infect that feature.

Here's the rundown.

1. Always make the restore media (DVD, etc.)
2. Make a spare copy of the restore media. Many lose or break one and we need that spare.
3. Just like your old machines, keep a backup of what you can't lose.
4. And finally consider if you can make a whole copy of the system when it's "perfectly the way I like it" so you can restore to that day in one fell swoop.
Bob

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much appreciated info
by mamontano / September 30, 2009 3:07 AM PDT
In reply to: You're getting it.

Looking into blank media right now. I'm pretty sure i read that 7gb
of hidden storage is devoted for recovery disks. Any special disks
like dvd-r/rw, dvd+r/rw, dvd+r dl, dvd-r dl, bd-r/re etc.,? My
optical drive reads and writes to them all. The dl disks seem to
be 8.5gb which should hold the whole boot recovery on 1 disk. I'm just
a basic user who will slowly add more and more pictures and music
but i probably won't go "hog wild". I'd like to buy a small stack of
disks that will handle my needs as i don't burn too much stuff.
Would making a whole copy of the system be better to put it on an
external or portable hard or on disk. Don't want to buy unnecessary
stuff that i wouldn't use.

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I used common DVD+R media.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / September 30, 2009 3:44 AM PDT
In reply to: much appreciated info

I skipped using dual layer since it's a little more cost and is just a little more unreliable.

In parting most moderators have been known to offer this saying:

"We only lose what we didn't backup."

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thanks for all your help - learned alot
by mamontano / September 30, 2009 3:57 AM PDT

Sony could only take me so far. Won't talk about 3rd party stuff.
Heading to walmart soon.

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Different backup methods
by TaraS_WinTeam / September 30, 2009 9:05 AM PDT
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thanks for the info
by mamontano / September 30, 2009 8:11 PM PDT

Right now my main concern is making a copy (boot disks) of the
recovery disks on the hidden partition of my hard drive. My next
concern is safe storage of photos, pictures, and music. Last is
making an image of my system for a quick recovery. Why doesn't
windows supply some type of system imager?

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