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AVG question & security concerns - New Member

by msmiz / November 30, 2004 7:44 PM PST

Hi everyone I am a new member. this is a great informative board. I have some questions & concerns I need help with.

I bought a new Dell Dimension 2400, Intel Pentium 4 processor at 2.80GHz with addition 512MB DDR SDRAM at 333MHz.

Windows XP Pro

It came with a 90 day NIS 2004 which expires on Friday
and I have been researching AVG and considering giving it a try since it is free and all the reviews I have read seem to be positive. I also have Zone Alarm free firewall on my system now.

I am not a very computer savvy person and am wondering if AVG will suit my computer. I am a home user. Also if I do install it, is it user friendly for the download? Or should I get someone to help me?

My NIS expires Friday. I do not want to have any period of time unprotected so any advice of when I can do the AVG install? Midnight on the Thurs or earlier?... is it poss to have both AVG/NIS at the same time without creating issues or problems?

Also, what other types of security should I be looking at with the use of AVG and Zone Alarm and are there any free ones out there that I can use and/or need to make sure I have max protection? What about span?

Thanks for your help. Sorry for so many questions.

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Re: AVG question & security concerns - New Member
by MarkFlax Forum moderator / November 30, 2004 8:13 PM PST

Hi msmiz,

It's important you have anti-virus (AV) on your computer, so if you don't want to continue with Nortons, AVG 7 Free is a very good choice from http://www.grisoft.com.

It is fully user friendly, but as with any new program, it has it's quirks and features which need getting used to.

You will need to update its virus definitions regularly. You can either set AVG to do this automatically, of if like me you want to be in control, you can open up the program and update regularly yourself, 2 or 3 times aa week. AVG has this nifty pop-up message that tells you when the virus definitions are outdated. I get told off by it a lot, :).

Having 2 active AV's won't do too much harm but it is not recommended, and I would disable Norton's AV. Preferably, removing Norton's, (once you have downlaoded and installed AVG of course), is better, but removing Nortons entirely from a computer is not an easy job.The norton's web site at http://www.symantec.com has instructions for full removal.

AVG and ZoneAlarm is good protection. But you also need 2 or 3 more, for anti-adware, and anti-spyware.

I recommend Ad-aware SE Personal for anti-adware from http://www.lavasoftusa.com. It is free.

and Spybot Search & Destroy anti-spyware from http://www.spybot.info/en/index.html

Both these programs, once downloaded and installed, need their definitions updated and the computer scanned.

Also, I would download and install SPywareblaster, from http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/

This also needs to be updated when it is installed, but you don't have to scan the computer with it as it protects in a different way. But you have to "Enable all protection", once it is updated.

For myself, I also use a Startup Monitor, to stop programs setting themselves to start up without my knowledge when I turn on the computer. I got mine from http://www.mlin.net/StartupMonitor.shtml

Finally, keep your Windows uptodate. Use the Automatic Update feature, or goto Start > Windows Update regularly.

Hope this helps,


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Concur with Mark!
by glenn30 / November 30, 2004 11:27 PM PST

I am and have used AVG Free and ZoneAlarm for a long time. Both work very well and I have been virus and spyware free for as long as I remember. Wink Both are recommended along with the other programs mentioned by Mark.

Good luck!


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Re: AVG question & security concerns - New Member
by daSeller / December 4, 2004 4:13 AM PST

Good summary. I do have a problem with Spybot however, in that it just 'hangs' when I select an entry to fix. Ctl-Alt-Del tells me its "not responding" so I reboot; Yep the whole machine is hung! How do I resolve?

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Re: AVG question & security concerns - New Member
by Brent Welch / December 4, 2004 4:34 AM PST

If you are running Windows XP, try going through the settings and UNCHECK the 2 options to create a restore point when fixing spyware/usage tracks and system internals.

Some have reported that having Spybot create restore points slows things down.

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Also concur with Mark.....
by John Robie / December 1, 2004 2:48 AM PST

You should have no problem installing AVG yourself. To avoid having two AntiVirus programs running at the same time which could possibly cause problems I would suggest that when you download the AVG have it go to "Save" instead of "Open". This will more than likely put it on your Desktop with an Icon showing, or "My Documents", or a folder you have designated...watch where it goes. After the download, temporarily disable from the Internet and go through the delete of NIS. After the deletion, close/disable other programs that may be running, click on to the Icon of AVG where it was downloaded and the "installation" process will began. Restart your computer after installation.

You should normally not have a problem removing NIS using the Add/Remove in the Control Panel. Some further info from Symantec if you do:


To ensure no conflict with a new anti-virus program after removal of the old through Add/Remove (or Program uninstall), I use the computer "Search" (Find) for anything Norton's or Symantic file/item, highlight, right click and select delete. I also have RegCleaner which I run to ensure that the Registry has eliminated any left overs. I recommend 'RegCleaner' for anyone as it is very easy to use in eliminating remnants and safe for someone who does not go into the Registry.. which can be unsafe. Can obtain from:

The free AVG is good and I use it on one of my desktops and Norton System Works with AV on another. I recently installed the free Avast AntiVirus program on another desktop, and so far like it, especially the automatic download/install of the new virus definitions, that I don't have to do manually.... like in AVG. Can obtain from:

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by msmiz / December 2, 2004 9:01 AM PST

Thanks everyone your information was appreciated. I will work on doing all of this evening. I will keep you posted on how it goes.

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by msmiz / December 2, 2004 9:51 PM PST
In reply to: Re: AVG

Hi everyone
well I sucessfully did the AVG download last night and also added Ad-Aware SE Personal and Spybot Sear & Destroy as recommended. I searched this site for a Span filter and choose Cactus Span Filter.

Thanks for all your help and I'll let you know how things progress.

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