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AV reciever companies; Best in breed for same price point??

Jul 25, 2009 5:43AM PDT

Hello,

I'm in the market to upgrade my AV surround sound receiver. The price point I'm looking at is $900-$1,200. The connectivity in this price range is just what I'm looking for, in general. So are most of the common features. What I'm unsure of is who's the better bread as far as quality in audio output, video conversion and reproduction, power handling and output, and thoughtfulness in general.

The models I'm looking at are:
Yamaha RX-v1900
Denon AVR-3808 ci
Pioneer Elite SC-07
Marantz SR7002

I like most of the reviews that I've been able to find but what I'm concerned about are their low points, either specifically or in general, of these models and brand names respectively. Do one of these models stand out from the others noticeably?

Any input would be greatly appreciated. Please include any web-sites with this info, if possible.

Also, are there any other comparable models that I should consider in this price point?

I'm also looking for a good speaker match somewhere in the $15k neighborhood. Any suggestions and why?

Thanks so much,
?Irjeep?

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AV Receivers
Jul 25, 2009 7:40AM PDT

I may be the first to reply, but I'm sure I won't be the last. First of all I am curious about your current set up and what receiver and speakers you are replacing. Second, instead of budgeting $900-$1200 for a reciever, lets look at your overall budget of 16K. A lot of specialty stores will throw in the receiver of your choice with a budget of 16K. I currently have a 7.1 system built around an Onkyo 806 receiver and Definitive Technology Power monitors and bi-polar surrounds. I upgraded from a Yamaha RXV-2500 and JBL S38/S26 studio monitors. However if I was starting again from scratch with a budget like yours, I would probably go the separate route with Processor/Pre-amp and Power Amp because most receivers don't put out the power they claim. Sound is in the ear of the beholder, so I can toss our a lot names that I like, but it's your money. So take a day off from work in the middle of the week. Find that store that has components you are interested in. Week days are usually slow, so most salesmen will take what ever time is necessary helping you decide. Best of Luck and this url is a good reference to get reviews and benchmarks. http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/

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Your budget puts you into a whole different world.
Jul 29, 2009 2:32AM PDT
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Whole New World
Aug 2, 2009 11:35AM PDT

jcrobso,

Thanks for the link. I know of JBL?s equipment through my old musician days. I?m not familiar with them in home audio though.
BTW, if you had my old Kenwood HTB system, you?d want to go higher end too. A whole new world is the point. I just bought a nice 54? Plasma and need to upgrade across the board ? been needing to for quite some time now.

Thanks again for your time,
Jeep~

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Thanks for the reply.
Aug 2, 2009 11:26AM PDT

hturner1949,

Thanks for taking the time to reply to my query.
My current set up is an old Kenwood vr-616 HTB system.

I recently got a great buy on a Panasonic TC-P54G10 Plasma, something I've been researching and waiting for, for quite a awhile (going HD plasma). I've recently come into some money and I want to upgrade all around. I figured about a $1,000 for the receiver and about $1,500 for the speakers(you usually have to pay more for the speakers to match a receiver). At that price point, the receivers have the features that I'm looking for and hopefully I'll find some decent speakers to do justice to it.

For my movies, I have a PS3, which looks great on the Panasonic. I still have older electronics that need good to great up-conversion video processing and I would like Wi-Fi or Ethernet support although it's not a deal breaker (wanting to stream movies and music from my PC).

I know it's quite a jump from what I have but that?s the point. I'm no stranger to electronics but I'm not a true stereophile either. I can afford about 16K give or take a little and obviously want the most for my money but it's nothing without quality.

As far as the receivers, the Onkyo tx-sr806, Denon AVR-3808ci, Marants SR8002, and maybe the Pioneer Elite SC-07 (pricey), all look good but I'm not familiar with the brands, surround sound wise. I do know they?re good names. The speakers, I know of even less and I'm doing a lot of reading on; there's so much to know and find out, it gives me a headache playing catch up. So I thought to give this forum a try and see what info I could get.

The best electronics store I have in this town is Ultimate Electronics, otherwise it's the old Best Buy route but I haven't a problem shopping on the nets.

That's my situation.
Jeep~

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Aperion Speakers
Aug 3, 2009 11:13PM PDT

Sorry about the typo, but even a budget of $2700.00 will still allow you to buy a great sounding surround system. I had considered Aperion before deciding on Defintive Technology. The deciding factor was the built in Subs on the front speakers which allowed me to place my stand alone sub woofer at the rear listening position. The low frequency effects (LFE) really engulfs you. However I don't recommend this for everyone. The great thing about Aperion is they give you 30 days to audition their speakers and send them back if you don't like them. The bad thing is you can't do an A/B comparison with another brand that you may be considering. As for receivers, you can really get into heated debates about them and it really becomes a personal preference. Accessories 4 Less sells re-furb Marantz & Onkyo with new warrantys at a 45 to 50 percent discount. Dakmart has good deals on re-furb Denon's. Both E-tailers are on Ebay, but it's cheaper to go direct to their web site. In my area Magnolia Audio was a great place to audition equipment. Unfortunately the Evil Empire (Best Buy) bought them out several years ago and recently closed most of their stores. Most Best Buy stores don't even have good listening rooms. I'm hoping that Ultimate Electronics does so you can make a sound decision (pun intended) before spending your hard earned cash.

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Typo
Aug 2, 2009 12:00PM PDT

What I can afford is about $2,600 - not 16K.

I don't know where that came from. I think I was thinking of the speakers in hundreds and put a K on it for some silly reason. So that's about $1,000 for a reciever and $1,500-$1,600 for speakers. BTW, what do you think of the Intimus 4T Hybrid SD by Aperion for a speaker package. I like the idea of a speaker package deal.

Jeep~

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You may want to consider separates
Jul 29, 2009 4:15AM PDT

With your pretty large budget, you might want to consider buying a separate pre-pro and amp. Emotiva seems to be a VERY good quality amp/pre-pro maker and if you combine the XPA-5 and UMC-1 ($1500 combined) it will be a better setup than any of the receivers you listed. They have a forum on emotiva.com you can ask questions if you want. If you are spending 15K on nice speakers, might as well drive them with a high quality amp like that XPA-5 they have.

As far as speakers, like others have said, you should audition different brands. Check out B&W, PSB, AV123, Ascend, ML, JBL, etc. Some will be hard/impossible to demo since some companies only sell online, but at least with some you can find stores for.

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Speakers
Aug 2, 2009 11:43AM PDT

bearvp,

Thanks for those names to look into.

I?ve been seeing PSB, that you mentioned, getting good reviews and there just in my price range, 16K. I saw here in C-net that the Intimus 4T Hybrid SD got a great review and it?s an all speaker package to boot but I?m not familiar with that name at all. That and not being able to hear them worries me.

Thanks again for your help,
Jeep~

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2 more to consider
Aug 2, 2009 12:41PM PDT

As far as the receivers go, all the names you mention are good though I'd lean towards Denon and Marantz over the other two based on previous models and experience I had years ago selling audio equipment.

I would also recommend throwing Onkyo and Harman Kardon into that list and check them out as well. Onkyo especially usually has very good models for the price.


Brandon
thetechblender.com