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Auto-adjusting clocks for use at home?

Dec 14, 2003 7:01AM PST

Some time back there was a post about a clock that adjusted itself based on the atomic clock radio signal. My wife wants something like that for the house. From the reviews I've seen it sounds like the products are a bit less than fully reliable.

Anybody using one of these auto-setting clocks? Suggestions?

Thanks.

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Re:Auto-adjusting clocks for use at home?
Dec 14, 2003 7:46AM PST

Its all about signal. Signal, signal, signal.
And most places don't get a very strong signal. There are local 'repeaters' in many cities and those may or may not work well. My VCR (Sony) auto-detect clock works very well, but so far I haven't seen or heard of any regular watches or clocks that are dependable Sad

If you live someplace like Denver you are in great shape, but even with a wide open area like I have here in Texas, most of the time the signal is not propagating well enough for those devices (watches/clocks) to pick it up because the antenna is not big enough or the signal is blocked by buildings, etc.

Before plopping down the money for one of those I would recommend you get a demonstration that it works, first. Maybe your local Radio Shack???

Merry Christmas from down Texas way, y'all.

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(NT) Thanks. Hadn't considered 'The Shack'
Dec 14, 2003 8:41AM PST

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'The Shack'
Dec 14, 2003 8:45PM PST

Was just a suggestion to see if you are getting a good signal in your area.

Since the 'wife' is the one wanting this device, I can understand your desire to get one Happy

You could also get a nice clock screen saver for the PC and then get the free "Atomic Clock Sync" program from this page and you would be all fixed up.

http://www.worldtimeserver.com/

That's what I use and it works great.

Merry Christmas, y'all.

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Re: Auto-adjusting VCR
Dec 14, 2003 10:10PM PST

Hi, Louis.

Is your cable system digital yet? My auto-adjusting VCR worked well when we were analog, but once they upgraded us to digital/fiber optic, it's stopped working. Maybe I should be calling Time Warner about this?
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Re:Re: Auto-adjusting VCR
Dec 15, 2003 3:03AM PST

No cable out here in the sticks, we use satellite (DishNetwork).

I get my local broadcast from an external antenna and that is where the time signal comes in, too.

I would guess your VCR cannot decode the digital signal on the cable Sad

Merry Christmas from up north Happy

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VCR not using radio signal, most likely.
Dec 15, 2003 9:40AM PST

Hi Louis,

Your VCR is most likely not using a radio signal. All public television stations have a signal transmitted in the vertical blanking interval containing the time, date, and time zone; the TVs/VCRs that set automatically usually use that.

Having said that, there are radio clocks that you can buy at Radio Shack. I would suggest buying locally and just seeing if it works in the store. I've often wondered why these clocks don't just make a deal with Sprint/Nextel/Verizon to use the (almost ubiquious) cell phone networks to get the time.

Jason "LeeR" Roberts

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Re:Auto-adjusting clocks for use at home?
Dec 14, 2003 10:26AM PST

Dr. Bill,

I've been using a SPRINGFIELD probably three or so years which keeps excellent time. Think I purchased it at a store like Wal-Mart for in the neighborhood of $70. It is a wall-mounted clock and I never have to set it even for the time changes.

I only wish I had two or three more of them.

Tim

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Why would you bother, Bill?
Dec 14, 2003 10:28AM PST

If you are using Windows XP, and you must have Internet access to be able to post here, then your system is updated every 24 hours to a USA based atomic clock.

If you do not have WXP, well, I used "Atomic Clock" from www.worldtimesaver.com for several years, though the automated update never worked, I just placed a manual update in autoexec.bat.

If you have one clock in the house that is accurate to the microsecond, then setting the rest of the clocks within the human eye level of accuracy is not difficult.

Ian

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Because my wife wants it ...
Dec 14, 2003 10:49AM PST

I'm quite happy with the clock on my PC that is updated every time I boot using nistime (from the US National Institute of Standards IIRC) but my wife wants one she can look at sitting on a shelf or hanging on the wall.

There are times when logic has nothing to do with life.

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I cannot argue when I see the secret of a happy marriage. :-) nt
Dec 14, 2003 3:32PM PST

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Re:Auto-adjusting clocks for use at home?
Dec 14, 2003 10:36AM PST

I have an Atomix model from Chaney Instrument Company that has served me well for several years now in the Atlanta area. It even sets itself at each end of daylight savings time. I have checked it several times in the past against time.gov and it has always been accurate to the second. Call them at 1-800-777-0565 to see if they have a dealer in your area.

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Dr. Bill, check this link out...
Dec 14, 2003 10:40AM PST
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Re:Auto-adjusting clocks for use at home?
Dec 14, 2003 10:47AM PST

I've been using a SkyScan atomic clock for a while and it's on-the-dot accurate. It has a symbol on the digital readout that lets you know if it's geting the signal. It also tells the month/date/day of week, indoor temp, and has a small sensor that you put outside so it will also display the outdoor temp. It's always accurate, and changes to and from Daylight Savings Time by itself too.

I just got another SkyScan and paid about $25.00 for it, at Sam's. The new ones even have a moon phase display, lol. While there I also saw another one that has an analog display with none of the indoor/outdoor temp bells and whistles, and it was only $15.00. Same brand I think.

The folks at Sam's tell me that they sell a LOT of these. The digital ones can be placed on the wall or on a table.

DE

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I just have an alarm clock but...
Dec 14, 2003 1:40PM PST

you may find something at Oregon Scientific that you like! Mine has been working very, very good and is more accurate than a Breitlling watch! This is the one I have. It took about 3 hours to get the full signal and ever since, it has worked perfectly. I live in NYC as you may know so I am not exactly close to CO...

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Mine is Oregon Scientific
Dec 14, 2003 3:16PM PST

It has always worked extremely well in Chicago although it needed, as I recall, overnight to set accurately. I use it to set my watch which needs to be accurate to make train schedules.

I also use it on eBay to make last second bids. If I bid with 20 seconds to go, no one can counter, but the time needs to be dead on.

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Re:Auto-adjusting clocks for use at home?
Dec 14, 2003 9:56PM PST

Actually I been considering buying a clock that couldn't be set (externally) myself, to hang at 'relief site' at work. Then there would be one clock there that noone had no control over what time it stated. I could set a watch then so I'd know what time I arrive to relieve anyway. And (to be honest, to acheive my main point, it would need to be large and hard to ignore) to fix a time I was being relieve by one particular relief person.

I have read recently about clocks that the time is set internally on a lithium battery backup chipset that is suppose to be accurate within one second for the next 5 years or so.

roger

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Re:Auto-adjusting clocks for use at home?
Dec 15, 2003 7:48AM PST

Roger,

To be honest, it has been so long since I've had my SPRINGFIELD down off the wall for even a battery change that I forget for sure, but if I'm not mistaken, mine is such that EVERYTHING is auto to the point that I never even set it to begin with as there are no setting controls to do just that.

Tim

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Re:Auto-adjusting clocks for use at home?
Dec 14, 2003 10:38PM PST

Haven't used one as they are pricey here, so can't comment on performance. However that is old technology, been around for some years now, here they align themselves to the atomic time base at Rugby.

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How is that different?
Dec 14, 2003 11:04PM PST

I assume the clocks we are talking about are setting themselves based on receiving a radio signal from an atomic clock in Colorado.

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Did I say it was different??
Dec 15, 2003 9:54AM PST

Nope, I think not. We use Rugby, because it is local. Would be a dumb idea using a foreign time base when we are the nation which invented the time zones in the first place, wouldn't it?

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Sorry, I thought you said self-adjusting clocks are old technolgy
Dec 15, 2003 9:58AM PST

and that you use something different

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Dale...
Dec 15, 2003 1:43PM PST

Don't you have those Junghans (sp?) from Germany there? I thought they were reasonable priced... My friend in Sweden has one that works very well and I was trying to get one here in the US too, but obviously a clock that is set by American sattelits will do better here.... LOL!

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NT - Please let us know if and which clock you will buy!
Dec 15, 2003 1:44PM PST

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Thanks for the input ... Unfortunately
Dec 16, 2003 5:20AM PST

I went by Radio Shack and checked out their radio-receiving clocks. The ones in the store are not working properly 'because the signal is so weak inside the store'. The clerk assured me that people don't have problems out in 'the real world' but I think I'll pass on the clock for now.

Thanks for the suggestions. Maybe someday the technology will work out in 'the boonies'.

Oh well.

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A solution
Dec 16, 2003 9:31AM PST

Buy one of those supercheap PCs I see mentioned here and drool over,

Buy a 14 inch LCD flat panel display,

connect PC to the Internet

Display MSCLOCK on the LCD

Hang LCD on the wall wherever suits the missus.

Ian

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That would be a seriously high-tech wall clock!
Dec 16, 2003 10:07AM PST

Actually, all I'd need for that is the LCD monitor. I've got an old K6-2-450 system laying around unused.

Of course the power consumption for the PC would be a lot higher than for the clock. Still, it's an interesting idea.

I guess, though, that I'm not familiar with that particular clock program (msclock). I did not find any program named *clock*.exe on a Win 98 system, and the only similar program I found on my XP system is clock.exe from an old Win 3.1 computer (it's a long story). As it happens the old clock.exe does appear to run properly on my XP box.