surely do hope we pay attention because I enjoy seeing what other people think and how they arrived there. Ain't we supposed to be adults?
Dear SE folks,
I've been asked to post this message below on behalf of the SE Mods and I hope you really take at heart as what is being asked from each and every one of you. So please read it carefully, print it out if you have to, but let it be known that if things do continue to go down this degrading path--we all will be at the risk of losing SE completely. If you care about this community that you so passionately are a part of, read the message below and contribute to the cause to make SE a friendly and constructive environment that everyone can enjoy. If you can't contribute anything healthy to it, you are simply not welcomed here any longer. From this day on the choice is yours--because there will come a time in the near future when the business decision of keeping SE around will be revisited and I hope when that moment does arrive, the decision will be a positive one.
Thank you for your time, understanding, and cooperation.
*** Message to all SE forum participants ***
We've had numerous correspondence and phone conversations with Lee Koo over what has become a very deteriorated version of SE over the last few years. What we've discovered from him leaves us all in a very precarious position of being able to keep SE available and not have it pulled completely. The SE Mods have decided to share this information with all of you in the hopes that you will all take it to heart (and that includes the Moderators since we're members as well) and learn from this information enough to have all of us change our habits regarding posting and replies.
First and foremost is that SE is here as a favor to us ONLY. The Powers That Be didn't want to include SE in the new CNET format when it bought out ZDNET a few years back, but Lee fought for us and was given permission to leave it as an off-topic discussion area since the entire rest of the CNET site is all technology oriented, which is why the free Help forums have remained. Lee is the one who catches the flack the most regarding what happens here in SE....and the following statement/paragraph will explain how that happens.
When a Modalert is sent by anyone within any of the forums, including SE, we have all been under the impression that those alerts go to Lee Koo and all of the Moderators, whether they Moderate in that particular forum where the Modalert is generated or not. This part is true....so whatever stink is going on in SE at that time, all Moderators everywhere get the notice.
What we didn't know, and now all of us will have that knowledge, is that the Modalerts also go to many technical, customer relations, website developers, and others high in the 'food chain' that Lee has to answer to....and the more garbage that is not only posted in SE but also Alerted to via the Modalerts, the greater the adverse reflection on Lee, the forum, and the SE Mods. It is on this basis that decisions will be made by those higher than Lee about whether SE is going to be able to survive or get yanked because it also reflects to all new membership as they register and wander into SE.
So, no matter how good the content of the post, if it contains a 'zinger' of any kind, or a snide remark, a blatant insult to members or a culture, or any other derogatory type comment, the post will be removed. There will be no emails about it (figure it out on your own and repost the content that you really want to be shown); there will be no discussions about it publicly so don't even think about asking ''why'' because that post will be removed as well; there will be no insults to the Moderators about censorship or 'thought police' or 'pc correct' garbage.
There will, from now on, be respect for each other. You don't have to agree with a post...but you will have to 'argue' that difference with respect for the other person's opinion. There will be no 'zingers' about how somebody shouldn't have an opinion just because they don't live here in the USA. CNET, and thus Speakeasy, is a world-wide community, and as such we have members from all over the world, and they're entitled to their opinions and biases as much as you are. Everyone will never agree, but we CAN learn from each others' cultures, beliefs, and viewpoints....an open mind is a sponge; soak up the knowledge that others have and you better yourself in the long run. The door of knowledge swings both ways....information is the key.....insults slam the door the fastest.
No one needs lectures from other members about their lifestyles or beliefs....you can get your point and information across without making the post sound derisive and putting the other party on the defensive. If someone is wrong about the facts they've posted, it's easy to post the correct information without sending a personal message that suggests or blatantly accuses the poster of being anything other than factually incorrect. It must be kept in mind that ''facts'' are often gleaned from different sources, whether main-stream, non-mainstream, blogs, web sites, foreign in origination, etc. All of these can present facts, but the spin and the selection of aspects of a story, although true, can be biased. We may all trust those that fit our views more, but we also have to realize that there are different points of view while presenting facts. As said before, the opposite view can be posted without insulting remarks about the messenger. The ideal is the ''counter to an argument by using a better argument'', not attacking the messenger.
There has also been a continuation of carrying over old baggage, old hurts (real or perceived), that has colored many posts. These must be put behind us.
Basically, this is it...SE may well be singing its swan song.....it's up to all of us to make sure it doesn't die. There will be NO favoritism shown with deletions. It doesn't matter who you are, how long you've been around, your political or religious persuasion, or what color your eyes are....if you care about SE and its future, think before you hit that submit button.
Thank you ALL for your understanding and cooperation....and ''ALL'' includes the Moderators who will also be practicing what we're 'preaching'.