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ATTENTION members: CNET wide is implementing a redesigned

Oct 16, 2006 2:42AM PDT

header and doing some moderate changes to our site--this impacts not only the CNET forums, but all of CNET sites. So in the next few hours--starting around 10AM if you see some wonkiness on our site, please don't panic as it is intended.

Thanks for you patience while we implement these changes.

-Lee
CNET Community

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(NT) (NT) i had to relogin
Oct 16, 2006 5:57AM PDT
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I can see that happening since the login at the top of all
Oct 16, 2006 6:02AM PDT

CNET pages were affected by this change.

Was it really that painful Mark? Wink

-Lee

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I didn't have to login again, BUT........
Oct 16, 2006 6:33AM PDT

WHY do they have to mess with the text size???? I have text set on largest now and I still can't see to readSad
Rats!!!

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(NT) (NT) Get Glasses!
Oct 16, 2006 7:02AM PDT
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Hey!! Vampire Rick:)
Oct 16, 2006 7:33AM PDT

I HAVE glasses as a matter of fact they are trifocals!!! Can't get better than that unless I go to coke lensDevil
The Vampire Killer Devil

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Look at this new design
Oct 16, 2006 7:04AM PDT
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(NT) (NT) Evil Man!!!! LOL
Oct 16, 2006 7:52AM PDT
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(NT) (NT) I heard that passionate Mark called to see if you were
Oct 16, 2006 8:55AM PDT
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He did:)
Oct 16, 2006 10:49AM PDT

And he doesn't need a stake & garlic either Devil

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(NT) (NT) got blister on finger
Oct 16, 2006 1:48PM PDT
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Not bad...
Oct 16, 2006 7:09AM PDT

I really disliked the previous overhaul of the header/footer, considering it a giant step backwards, but this one looks really good. I particularly like the new design and position of the search bar, getting rid of the out-of-place grey one and filling a glaring hole in design/content.

Some minor issues:
* I wasn't forced to log out and back in but the revised universal login would not 'recognize' me until I did. After logging in they were in sync.

* Lee, could you have the engineers adjust the text size for the forum titles and the note about including all details? Suddenly it got very small.

* The footers 'blend' together on the Cnet mainpage but when viewing the forums they're spaced apart and the borders don't quite line up.

* It looks like the profiles are not yet finished...the header is completely missing.

* Would it be possible to darken the blue links just a touch...it seems a little too bright on a pure white background. (It actually looks brighter to me than what's on the Cnet mainpage.)

Aside from that I live the new look and am looking forward to seeing the new forums inserted into the frame. Happy

John

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Continued...
Oct 16, 2006 10:32AM PDT

If you end the browser session the Welcome box and forum functionality 'remembers' you but the universal login asks you to log in or sign up...it's a bug.

Also, what happened to the dotted lines that separated the 'most recent' posts lists on the forum mainpage? Right now it looks like a giant mass making it more difficult to read.

John

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Agree with Glenda. . .
Oct 16, 2006 7:40AM PDT

Font's too small. Don't like it.

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This is a baby color forum now.
Oct 16, 2006 1:49PM PDT
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(NT) (NT) Missing Pink
Oct 16, 2006 2:37PM PDT
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(NT) (NT) Mabe it's a boy.
Oct 17, 2006 4:39AM PDT
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(NT) (NT) Ohh, Boy!
Oct 17, 2006 7:21AM PDT
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Don't give them the idea.
Oct 17, 2006 12:46PM PDT

The baby blue is bad enough on it's own. Most of the rest isn't too bad, although a reduction in the "whiteness" of the background would be helpful.

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(NT) (NT) Love Baby Girl Shades Also..........Bring It On!!!!!!
Oct 17, 2006 3:26PM PDT
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Can you PLEASE fix the CSS?
Oct 16, 2006 7:51AM PDT

Is it that hard to create a stylesheet that conforms to W3C standards, and works in browsers like Firefox, Opera, and Safari... Then make a second stylesheet to fix IE6 stupidity? The cascading nature of CSS makes that end of it pretty trivial, and with a single line of code added to the master template, you could make it so only IE loads the IE specific stylehseet. In case you don't know what I'm talking about, Google IE conditional statements, and have your web developers read it.

As things are now, there's still a number of positioning issues, though it is at least somewhat better than before.

And I don't know if the same people who work on these sites are also responsible for sites like Tv.com, but that site has some seriously broken CSS in non-IE browsers as well. Which is just insult to injury after assaulting people with all those ads and other large download images. At the very least, could you pass along my complaint?

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One other thing
Oct 16, 2006 7:57AM PDT

Can you have the web developers get rid of the incredibly annoying herf="#" bit in the code for the Submit button? It gives me a headache when I click that button and am suddenly rocketed back to the top of the page.

I get the idea is probably to try and get people to look at the ads more, but why not just put the ads between the preview/submit buttons and the previous message text? Same effect, and no need to forcibly send people to the top of the page.

If I have to, I'll download the Greasemonkey extension for Firefox and see if I can't use it to take matters into my own hands. I don't want to do that, and I don't think you want me to do that either.

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If you DO decide to use greasemonkey
Oct 16, 2006 9:43AM PDT

To tone down the intensity of the blue color, and enlarge the fonts to a comfortable level, PLEASE announce it on the forums so that we who are script-challenged can take advantage of your extraordinary greasemonkey skills!

Cindi

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Done
Oct 16, 2006 11:46AM PDT

Though I'm hopeful it won't have to come to that.

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Just out of curiosity. . .
Oct 16, 2006 8:02AM PDT

Do the people who design the pages have perfect vision? I'm going to be tacky, ok. It really burns me up when the font is so small it's hard to read. Yes, I'm getting old and I wear glasses. But damn, it's just too small. Many sites I see today have font at about 4 point. The designers have a whole freaking page but want to put the text in the left 1/8 of the screen. Please help, Lee.

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OK, Lee.....nice improvement BUT
Oct 16, 2006 8:17AM PDT

although the snow white background now is actually alot more tolerable than the all yellow garbage we endured for so long, you've now managed to mangle the improvements by using the lightest shade of blue for the forums subject lines you could find (hint..go back to the navy/royal blue please as this shade is very hard on the eyes and glares and blurs at the person reading it).

You've also managed to make the message area text so freaking small nobody can read it, and using the CTRL/mouse wheel trick to increase the size of the fonts only affects the subject lines of the threads and NOT the message area.

One day, I promise you, you WILL be 60 years old, and require bifocals or trifocals, and you will realize that real estate for your ads in CNET, although bringing in nice revenue, will eventually become a hindrence for the very people you are trying to attrack since they can't read the forums at all and THAT's what attracts them in the first place.

Good grief.....doesn't ANYBODY in the web design staff know how to listen to the USERS? Who in hell TESTS this stuff, kids with 60/60 vision who wear 'shades' all day long?????

TONI

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Lee..... I Agree With TONI...
Oct 16, 2006 8:44AM PDT

I'm in my late 60's and wear bifocals, had to use the mouse wheel.

Also, Please make the Blue Text a little Darker Blue.

Larry

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Yep!!
Oct 16, 2006 9:00AM PDT

And when I increase the font on this page, the other pages are too large!!

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Problems problems, and I thought it was IE7
Oct 17, 2006 5:51PM PDT

Morning Wayne whilst I agree that print is a tad small
think of the benefits, more info per inch.
I shall have to sit further back from the screen also!
Good layout though and easy on the eye! Thus far.

The Great Grasshopper whispers through the bending grass ''Patience my son,Patience''

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(NT) (NT) Agreeing 100% (..and laughing at the same time)
Oct 16, 2006 9:31AM PDT
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Good grief....more headaches, Lee
Oct 16, 2006 10:41PM PDT

In order to use the CTRL/mouse wheel trick here, I have to go into IE/Internet Options/Accessabilities and put a check mark in 'ignore fonts'.....BUT

When I do that in order to accommodate CNET's new forum fonts, I throw out every webpage I go to next, including MY OWN website.....and even using the CTRL/mouse wheel trick there doesn't let me use my own menu effectively.

You're forcing complete ruination of my eyes at CNET and when my trifocals aren't strong enough anymore to be here any longer and I have to go to 'coke bottle' prescriptions like I had when I was a kid, I'm sending YOU the bill for it, dear.

FIX the font size to something comfortable for everybody coming here.......and tell your advertisers like zipzoomfly to stop adding to the problem with their animated zeros and ones that we also can't control.

TONI