Thank you for being a valued part of the CNET community. As of December 1, 2020, the forums are in read-only format. In early 2021, CNET Forums will no longer be available. We are grateful for the participation and advice you have provided to one another over the years.

Thanks,

CNET Support

General discussion

ATI 4650 & HDMI

Jul 2, 2009 11:12AM PDT

Something of an annoyance and a curiosity for me.

Bought a Dell Studio Slim Desktop for use as a HTPC, and then I added a half-height ATI Radeon HD 4650 video card to it with native HDMI. Not some DVI adapter thing.

The video is routed through my receiver, which does HDMI passthrough and upscaling, though right now it's set not to do any upscaling. This then goes to my Dell UltraSharp 2709W with a native resolution of 1920x1200.

The problem is that I cannot seem to get Windows to consistently boot up displaying video on the HDMI input. I accept that I won't necessarily get the pre-POST display, and that's generally fine, I have a DVI cable connected for when I need to do that, and when I need to kick Windows in the butt a bit.

What I have found works, is if I switch my monitor to the DVI output, change the resolution to something like 1080p, and then back to 1920x1200, it will work just fine until I shut the computer off again.

At first I thought maybe it was my receiver, but I had a Dell Studio 17 laptop which at first exhibited similar issues until I had it replaced. At which point it worked flawlessly for the few days until I got this system to take its place.

Right now, I kind of suspect buggy ATI drivers. I have the latest Catalyst drivers as of maybe last Friday. I would have gone with an nVidia card, but all the decent ones require an external power source, and this being a slimline model, it has a FTX power supply which is difficult to find over 350W.

I have configured Windows so that the HDMI display is set to mirror the DVI display. I've created a profile for this, set a hotkey that does jack, and even created a shortcut that I stuck into the startup folder, which also did jack.

Really, all I want to do is be able to hit the power button, and have the Windows display pop up, and I can be on my way. If it takes until the ATI driver loads, that's fine. Anyone have any suggestions? It gets kind of annoying when I wake up in the night, can't get back to sleep, so I turn this on to watch a little TV to keep my ears from ringing, and then I'm forced to wake up enough to deal with switching inputs, then resolutions, then inputs again.

The system is running Vista x64 SP2, all other updates, and the latest ATI Catalyst drivers as of about a week ago. Am open to pretty much all suggestions.

Discussion is locked

- Collapse -
That switching makes me wonder.
Jul 2, 2009 11:14AM PDT

"I wonder if there are more than a few cables from the video card to the display? Here I just have one HDMI cable albeit a lowly other ATI card and it's just fine."

- Collapse -
There's two
Jul 2, 2009 1:27PM PDT

There's two cables. There's the HDMI cable and a DVI cable. The DVI cable I added only after already having problems getting any kind of output.

- Collapse -
Here I have just one.
Jul 2, 2009 1:29PM PDT

If that does not work, it may be time to try an Nvidia card next time.

- Collapse -
PS. Just tried another machine and
Jul 2, 2009 1:36PM PDT

Did this setup.

ATI card but used the DVI connection but a DVI to HDMI dongle/convertor and then off to the display with HDMI. Yes, there is no sound via that method but it works.
Bob

- Collapse -
hdmi often defaults to a tv res, 720p or 1080i/p
Jul 2, 2009 1:33PM PDT

graphics cards don't like TVs as primary displays because the 720p/1080i/p output is not a native monitor mode and requires the graphics driver to do some extra work. that extra logic is not available at boot time. my home theater pc had the same problem and switching to vga cured it.

if vga is not an option, then force the driver to use a monitor resolution (1920x1080) or configure your tv as a generic monitor, or ignore/remove 1080i/p.