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Arnold associates GWB with Lincoln and T. Roosevelt

He is speaking live as I write. A few minutes ago this was said by Arnold... "the Republican party of Lincoln. Of Teddy Roosevelt. And it is the Republican Party of George W. Bush".

It dismays me that he'd say such a thing. The Republican Party of today has nothing in common with the GOP of old. It is exactly opposite now.

Lincoln and Roosevelt were defacto Democrats by today's standards of social issues, progressions and reforms.

The last real Republican president i think would be GHW Bush. A true moderate. I don't mean to inflame, but would note that there is more of the Lincoln-era dixiecrat in our PResident than there is of true Republicanism

Henry Ford, that great industrial powerhouse, and "republican" by todays standards to his very core by his words and actions ran for US Senate in 1918. Ford ran as a Democrat. Why? Because the "transmogrification" as a writer here put it, the exchange of base of the two of parties had not fully completed at that time.

Unions had not yet fully taken hold. BOTH parties were much more moderate in tone and temper than they are today. And both then registerd core values not so very dissimilar.

I think it is an insult to history then, when Arnold (whom I otherwise like in most departments) plays pin the tail on the donkey with Lincoln and Roosevelt. Those two great Presidents are his donkey in his political game. And he makes GWB the tail. In pinning GWB metaphorically to this donkey he missed by an, uh, ***-width. Pardon the insult or not, that's the fact.

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Or it could be that he was going along the idea of Presidents who who led their party and nation through great challenges and succeeded. Or it could be *gasp* simple political expression, which of course the nice and completely honest Democrats never do. By the way, has anyone decided what the definition of "is" is?
But as for the changing of the political climate into more polarized gorups, I agree, but I see the Republicans as being the closer to the moderate position today as they have a tendency to associate less with extreme groups.

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I almost choked on my drink when he said that! He displays a shocking ignorance of all three presidents.

Dan

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Read you post, and appreciate the laugh

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Writing apparently under the influence of THC will often do that.

You ought to quit and spend some time in the real world. Alice and the White Rabbit aren't your friends.

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Interesting.

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I didn't hear the speech, and that type of laughable speech material is one reason I'm not watching this convention and didn't watch the other. Take that back ...the only speech I did listen to was Clinton's. That was great.

The next two months should be very interesting.

Enjoyed reading your thoughts and I agree.

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