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Are you loving or hating Windows 10? Need your feedback

Sep 16, 2016 4:20PM PDT

I'm one of the people who missed the deadline for the free upgrade to Windows 10. Long story short, I procrastinated and was traveling overseas on the expiration date and forgot all about it. Of course, no one to blame but myself. I was planning to wipe my desktop clean and start fresh with Windows 8.1 again, but since I was going through that process, I figured I might as well move on to Windows 10. However, before I go download and pay for it, I'd like to get your opinion on it since many people have been using it for quite some time. Do you love or hate it or are you somewhere in between? Any reason not to upgrade to it? If I do get Windows 10, do you recommend that I do a clean install from scratch, or should I install it directly over Windows 8.1? My system hardware requirements are more than capable of handling 10, and my software programs are fairly current so I'm not worried about the incompatibilities. Thank you for your feedback.

--Submitted by Peter M.

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Re: Dell
Sep 25, 2016 1:36PM PDT

If a new Dell laptop needs obscure programs like Glarysoft and ASC to correct what Windows does wrong (you forgot to tell what that was, so I can't comment on that), I'd return it as non-functional.

And if Glarysoft and ASC need 3 hours to clean it up, I'd dump those programs also.

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Corrupt and incorrect 2 !
Sep 25, 2016 4:12PM PDT

Kees_B

I have been through every post on this subject to see if other people are having the same problem, it appears not to be so.
The problem; as stated by Glarysoft; is incorrect and corrupted files, after using the cleaning tool, the computer works fine.
I had presumed that it was Microsoft at fault rather than the new computer.
I thank you for your attention.

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Both those programs are dubious.
Sep 25, 2016 4:25PM PDT

Especially ASC. Any reg cleaner can wreck an OS.
Dafydd.

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My tech friends love Glarysoft and registry cleaners
Sep 25, 2016 5:09PM PDT

But for dark reasons. They get a lot of work after such cleaners have done deep damage. Hey, if it works for you, fine, and my smiling friends will often not disagree since why should they?

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Mixed Results
Sep 25, 2016 1:13PM PDT

Overall, I prefer Windows 7. I really haven't noticed much difference in speed or other supposed improvements. Some things work, some don't.
I have Windows 10 (latest version) on two laptops now. A new, but cheap, ASUS came with Windows 10 pre-installed. All I've done is update when necessary. It works pretty much as Windows says it should. The only problem is trying to find and possibly bookmark some programs (-almost impossible sometimes-).
An older, but originally more expensive, Toshiba was updated from Windows 7. On it Internet Explorer doesn't work (-flicks on and back off-), the Edge home page has already been hijacked (-by search.yahoo.com-), and Windows Defender, which is supposed to be a backup to my main AV and run in the background, says I must uninstall my main AV before it can do anything. (Defender runs just as it says it should on the ASUS, as a backup to my main AV, by the way.) So take your chances. Maybe good, maybe not.

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Using a Windows 8 Emulator
Sep 25, 2016 4:00PM PDT

Hate it. The first day I had my IT guy install a version 8 emulator.
So, I have 10, but it looks and acts like 8. Happy

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I like it.
Sep 25, 2016 4:11PM PDT

It's been good to me. I've installed Win10 on 6 systems now. I like it.

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Me too
Sep 27, 2016 8:52AM PDT

I'm with you Mike. Installed w10 on 2 desktops and one laptop. One a single core processor, one a dual core and one a quad core. Went great. I have the pro version of w10, so I have some control except the laptop which has windows home. Even the anniversary update went off perfect except on the laptop, where I shut it down prematurely. My fault, but also their fault because I didn't know something was happening in the background. My only complaint is that you have no control over updates. Windows tried big time to install their nvidia driver which crashed all the time and I basically had to jump through the hoops to stop that. After that I've had no problem with w10 what so ever. Good operating system and I can't figure out why people are so down on it. Suspect hardware/software or lack of understanding.

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Slowed down big time
Sep 25, 2016 4:56PM PDT

I upgrade from windows 8.2 to windows 10. My machine is fairly new and everything works. But my machine periodically grinds to a halt and stops responding. I open task manager and it seems like nothing is happening. CPU usage is low, memory usage is low and disk usage is low. It seems like it is waiting for something.
Also Microsoft Edge is a resource hog. It gets into some state where it uses 70% of my cpu and the hard disk seems to go crazy. I use task manager to kill edge and then my computer works normally again.

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Other Internet Browsers
Sep 25, 2016 11:03PM PDT

Hi,

You can download Google Chrome or Firefox Web Browsers and during the install & set up be given the opportunity to import your favorites into the new web browser.

Also ie11 is still in Windows 10 but not on the desktop so 1/. Double Click This PC icon on your desktop 2/. Double click Local Disk C: 3/. Double Click Programs 86 (32bit) or Programs (64 bit) 4/. Double click Internet Explorer folder 5/. Right click iexplorer (blue e icon) 6/.From the pop up menu select send to option, then select Desktop Create new shortcut and you will now have the Internet Explorer shortcut on your desktop.

Edge cannot be removed but can be disabled. The following link tells you how

http://www.windows10help.net/how-to-disable-microsoft-edge-windows-10/

Hope this helps

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Suggestion for Slowed Down big time
Sep 26, 2016 8:18AM PDT

I don't know what you have for a computer, but if it is relatively new you should be seeing 1 to 2 percent CPU usage with Task Manager open at idle. If you are seeing more than this then you need to open processes and find which application or system process is causing the problem.
If you have Norton or McAfee installed, I would really suggest getting rid of them as they can really cause more problems than they are worth.
If you are still on any of the Windows 10 versions prior to 1511, I suggest getting the latest updates. Edge had a lot of issues that have been corrected in 1511 and it works better with the 1607 (Anniversary Update).
If you have done all that and have not tried Chrome, give it a try and see if it works fine using Chrome.
I suspect you will find the problem by monitoring resources in Task Manager.
Good Luck,
Frank

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I'm not pleased with 'spying on customers' -
Sep 26, 2016 3:14AM PDT

I'm not pleased with the practice of 'spying on customers' or treatment of the few who are stuck with telephone modems. Customers should be able to control when updates are downloaded, and when data is uploaded.

There are a few out there who for no fault of their own are stuck with dialup access and traditional phone modems.

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Love it, but.....
Sep 26, 2016 5:50AM PDT

I had 2 systems to upgrade: a nearly-new netbook running Windows 8 and an older desktop running Windows 7.
On the netbook, I did the upgrade and never looked back. There isn't anything strikingly different, but having an up-to-date system for free is fine with me.
The Windows 7 desktop was an entirely different story. First, my display driver was out-of-date and the was no update available. The upgrade software told me to buy a new PC! But I was able to find a generic driver and push ahead. Windows 10 worked, but had frustrating problems with permissions. My automatic daily cloud backup kept failing, and every time I scanned a document, I was asked if my Paperport software had permission to write on the disk. I gave up. I now have a shiny new, cheap ($300 on sale) HP desktop. Now everything works smoothly and moving my hardware, software, and data was a (relative) breeze.
Guess the Windows 10 upgrade software was right!

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Too each their own
Sep 26, 2016 1:47PM PDT

Personally, I would have just rolled back to 7 and left it at that. Would have saved $300 in the process.

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Don't re-install 8.1!
Sep 26, 2016 6:36AM PDT

The support of windows has moved on and so should you. Windows 10 is windows and for better or worse, there's no real difference in the level and types of issues. MS however has moved all of their development and support on to 10 so all improvements and fixes are happening in that arena. While they will continue to patch 8.1 for some time, they'll not be improving it.

I would NEVER upgrade a version of Windows. Always do a fresh install for all of the reasons that have been outlined, so many times before, here and elsewhere. Fresh drivers, clean drive, reinstall of your important systems and structures. You should always do a full backup anytime you change systems anyway so why not so a fresh install while you've got that fresh backup.

Oh, and this might be the perfect opportunity to install that 500gig SSD drive you've been eyeing.

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That's just you!
Sep 26, 2016 7:49PM PDT

I had a late model HP laptop that upgraded just fine from 8.1 to 10 with no problems or issues...all device drivers, files and apps remained intact

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Worked fine until updated - follow up
Sep 26, 2016 6:49AM PDT

I had posted a few days ago that I installed WIN 10 over WIN 7 Ultimate and had no problems from July 22nd until September 21st when an update forced me to do reboots in order to get my PC to work again. Then, for the next three mornings, my PC had to be rebooted because I leave it on overnight and the next mornings, it was frozen with just the rotating blue circle displaying. A reply to my post suggested that it is not a good idea to leave the machine running all night so I took his suggestion and put it into the "sleep" mode for the past couple of nights. And, I am happy to say, that when I wake up the computer, it works fine. So, I will have to remember to do that. I wonder if the forced feed MS updates will wake up my machine anyway? Anybody know if that will happen. Since I am running WIN 10 Pro, I heard I can turn off auto update. I'll have to investigate that.

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The best windows yet!
Sep 26, 2016 7:06AM PDT

Windows 10 is the best yet and easier to maneuver through than any other. Win 10 like all OS's have small quirks that are not particularly liked, but all including the vaunted Mac OS's have quirks. No one is going to like everything and that applies to the mad men that say that win 10 is the worst yet!

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(NT) anniversary update a problem
Sep 26, 2016 7:45AM PDT
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anniversary update a problem
Sep 26, 2016 7:48AM PDT

This update windows wants to take over control of your music. It tells me that I won't be able to play some of my music on my laptop because of music rights, like Rhapsody/ Napster, Sonos itunes and they say there won't be a fix for 2 months.
They are crazy I paid for all this.

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IE11 gone after update
Sep 28, 2016 9:00AM PDT

Mr. Softy REALLY has control issues, forcing Edge on everyone with the Anusversary update 1607. You can still choose IE as your default browser, but the taskbar shortcut to IE no longer worked. I just made another with Google as the target; same as before.

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Re: IE11
Sep 28, 2016 12:50PM PDT

No problem here at all with IE11 in the Anniversary Update in Win 10 Pro 64-bit. The link to IE11 I put in the taskbar still points to c:\program files (x86)\internet exporer\explore.exe, and since that file still exists, it runs IE.
In fact, it's version 11.187.14393.0, update version 11.0.35 from September 13, 2016.

- What version is your c:\program files (x86)\internet exporer\explore.exe ?
- Can you make a new shortcut to it?
- Can you put that on the taskbar?

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Acrive-x
Sep 28, 2016 1:44PM PDT

One of my software providers advised me not to apply any more updates to IE11 (LOGLOL), because MS will strip active-x and java support this month.

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There's always Firefox
Sep 29, 2016 6:00AM PDT

I use a PC for productivity. Having to constantly bow to the whims of Mr. Softy is counterproductive. The TV engineers jumped through hoops to keep color TV broadcast backward compatible with monochrome TVs; Mr. Softy should do the same. They certainly charge enough for their products. Yes, W10 was free, but Gates became the richest man on Earth with mediocre products.

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Re: IE11
Sep 29, 2016 6:23AM PDT

Unluckily, you can't stop updates on Windows 10.

What sites that use active-x do you use? Since those sites don't work in Firefox and Chrome I don't expect there are many.
What sites that use Java do you use? It's highly recommended, even by Oracle, the maker of Java, to uninstall it or block your browser to use it, unless you absolutely need it.

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W7 legacy link?
Sep 29, 2016 5:57AM PDT

Yes, if you read what I said that is exactly what I did. If I remember correctly, when I tried to delete the W7 directory from the PC IE stopped working; so I restored it. Apparently, the way this PC was upgraded to W10, prior to my purchase, there were some vestiges of W7 still operating, and the recent upgrade broke that link. That's just fine, because maybe I can get that old directory of my SSD now and regain some space.

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Windows 10
Sep 26, 2016 8:46AM PDT

Can't stand it! It's to WEIRD! I do not believe that it's user friendly. Windows XP was easier more straight forward. By trying to be so FANCY they lost sight of the most important direction any operating system should strive for and that is USER FREINDLY. The toughest most complex challenge for Microsoft will be to not go in the direction of complexity but to rediscover SIMPLICTY!

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Works fine for me
Sep 26, 2016 11:26AM PDT

My 7-year old HP Pavilion laptop (Win 7) upgraded just fine to Windows 10 and I've had no problems with it. My 5-year old HP desktop (Win 7) cannot upgrade because it says the display is not compatible. I've searched and searched and don't know how to resolve that problem... bummer.

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5-year old HP desktop (Win 7) cannot upgrade because it says
Sep 28, 2016 4:24PM PDT

Hi,

The question is what graphics card do you have or what graphics chip is on the motherboard?

If HP do not have a Win 10 driver download available try the graphics card or chip maker. ie Nvidia or ATI etc

Further this link will walk you through getting a copy of Win 10 from Microsoft (Free) and also Produkey which identifies the install code (COA). When you go to download Win 10 choose the option For Another Computer and make sure you have a 4 Gig USB stick as it will put an ios on the usb stick that you can then use as an upgrade. Lastly when upgrading to Win 10 choose not to allow updating Win 10 during the upgrade. You can update latter. This saves time & trouble.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/antonyleather/2015/07/30/windows-10-updating-reinstalling-and-activation-guide-essential-advice-to-avoid-problems/#2784ec061454

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RE: Free upgrade to Win10
Sep 28, 2016 4:55PM PDT

That article is over a year old, you can no longer upgrade for free, though it will allow you to download the ISO. Before it will activate, you'll be required to PAY for the OS and then Microsoft will send you a product key to activate with.