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Are you loving or hating Windows 10? Need your feedback

Sep 16, 2016 4:20PM PDT

I'm one of the people who missed the deadline for the free upgrade to Windows 10. Long story short, I procrastinated and was traveling overseas on the expiration date and forgot all about it. Of course, no one to blame but myself. I was planning to wipe my desktop clean and start fresh with Windows 8.1 again, but since I was going through that process, I figured I might as well move on to Windows 10. However, before I go download and pay for it, I'd like to get your opinion on it since many people have been using it for quite some time. Do you love or hate it or are you somewhere in between? Any reason not to upgrade to it? If I do get Windows 10, do you recommend that I do a clean install from scratch, or should I install it directly over Windows 8.1? My system hardware requirements are more than capable of handling 10, and my software programs are fairly current so I'm not worried about the incompatibilities. Thank you for your feedback.

--Submitted by Peter M.

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from llooeegee
Sep 24, 2016 3:13AM PDT

I have never been so disappointed AND confused since I started using WINDOWS 10 !!

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Should I Go for Windows 10
Sep 24, 2016 3:28AM PDT

I, like a number of people on this site was very reluctant to upgrade to windows 10 as I had continually used W7 and had not used W8 at all. I knew that it would be necessary to install W10 eventually as I was feeling that I being left behind. I had one programme from 2003 which I was not confident that it would run as it was an IBM one and it was very important to me. I also was a little wary of the Drivers for a HP Printer. I thought long and hard and even checked the IBM prog. out on a machine that a friend had running W10 and everything was OK. I also obtained the Windows 10 Drivers directly from HP.
I decided to go for it and with a week to go I upgraded W7 to W10. The actual upgrade installed well and everything worked, but the newly installed system was always very busy and was quite slow, although everything worked. I got so frustrated that I decided to roll-back. To everybody's surprise I could not roll-back, even on a similar lap-top. My main and current machine is a Desk-top.
I therefore decided to purchase a new desk-top machine with W10 pre-installed. I deliberately took a great deal of time to thourghly understand it and to be quite honest if you are familiar with W7 then you will have no problems understanding W10. My main problem with W10 was setting up the new aspects like MAIL, REMINDERS, CONTANA (I actually used the same Mail Client that I was using in W7 and intend to stick with that, although the MAIL App does have the advantage of having any additional emails all in he same place..
I would certainly recommend the change, but I would not recommend that you expect to use and understand it straight way. Any users that have move from W8 may not have similar shortcomings. I did not like the new EDGE Browser but now I certainly can see that it is much slicker than others browsers.
If you feel that you will need a new machine in the near future then GO FOR IT and run the old machine side by side. Far easier to copy across. Good luck

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Still has problems
Sep 24, 2016 3:39AM PDT

I always do a clean install as you don't know what rubbish you are dragging over from your old install. Always remember to turn off all the snooping tools Microsoft uses during the install.
Issues I have with Win 10 so far:
Why cant windows remember what I want to open a web page with. You tell it to remember IE and still asks everytime.
A recent update has change two of my customers Doc, Pictures, Download folders to read only. No resolution found to date so had to make new folders with similar names.
Another customer upgraded to Win 10, from a legitimate copy of 7 and now has a non-activated copy.
Why does Win 10 always tell me that when moving files from one folder to another that I could be at risk etc?
Those are the ones that spring to mind but there are plenty more.

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I wouldn't go back to 8.1
Sep 24, 2016 3:41AM PDT

Hi Peter,
For what it's worth, I got the free upgrade to W10 on my cheap ASUS E5-571 and I wouldn't change that, W10 is totally different in UI to 8.1 and I've had absolutely no problems, either with the upgrade or in use over the period. I was among the first I think.
Trevor Johnson.

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Windows 10 opinion
Sep 24, 2016 3:48AM PDT

I've been using windows since windows 3.1. I really liked xp and windows 7. When they came out with the free upgrade I tried it on one desktop (I have two and one laptop). Had windows 7 pro on it. This desktop has a single core processor and 4 gigs of ddr ram. Pretty old huh? It's a 32 bit operating system. It installed fine and everything worked as it should. I hated the live tiles blaring out at me so installed classic shell and set it up to look and feel like windows 7. Now I'm happy with. Can't see any difference except maybe appears to actually be a little quicker! So I installed it on the other desktop, another w7 pro, but 64 bit and 16 gigs of ddr3 ram. Again no problems. Installed classic shell and am now happy with that one. Very fast machine. Laptop was a w7 home edition 64 bit with 4 gigs of ddr3 ram given to me by my son. So far the only thing that has happened was the anniversary update failed because I closed the lid on the laptop and shut it down not knowing that it was being downloaded. Manually installed the update later to version 1607. Imho this os is at least as good as w7 maybe a little better and if you turn off all the snooping and what not then you actually have a rock solid operating system. Unless Microsoft forces more crazy junk on everyone LOL!

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A tiny disaster, from a company without accountability
Sep 24, 2016 4:06AM PDT

Who knows whether Windows 10 is the best thing since sliced bread? On a shiny new computer with tons of RAM, it might be that its fresh possibilities outweigh infinite quirks. It's certainly an odd affair: Windows bolted onto an impersonation of Android with only a fraction of the "apps". No doubt, deep in the jungle, Apps will be breeding. This leaves us with Microsoft's inimitable penchant for taking the best features of earlier software and quietly junking them, not least a Media Centre for which there is still no reliable, easy alternative. And then there are new, arcane rituals for doing things where everything before was fine - to the extent that Microsoft should surely adopt as its corporate motto, "It wasn't broken, so we've busted it anyway." They have given themselves a year of free public testing; yet it is clear from the forums and feedback pages, replete with death threats against Bill Gates, that here is an arrogant giant which couldn't care less what its customers think and more often than nor doesn't listen anyway.

But you see, I have a machine a couple of years old: running fine on Windows 7, until I succumbed to Microsoft's incessant nagging and chivvying: "Windows 10 is free. So when are you going to upgrade? ...When...When?" The results have been an almost complete disaster. I need to put my PC in Turbo Mode (I have Tune Up Utilities) for much to work within the time it takes to make a cup of tea. Microsoft either never thought this through or else they couldn't care less; and either would be typical. Hotmail, Outlook or Live - whatever we have to call it this week - is also still both mad and primitive compared to Gmail, at least half-a-dozen years behind. As for Microsoft Edge, bristling with bells and whistles, all you can say is that it's some improvement on the Internet Explorer that was causing torn hair and wailing in public libraries across the globe. When will Microsoft learn to look at its rivals and ask itself, "What do we need to do better?"

Matters came to a head a couple of weeks ago with one of Microsoft’s bruising and enforced “updates.” No question of whether you want or need an update, still less at precisely this instant. Like the class bully Microsoft wades in to do its thing, which in this case took over an hour during which the computer was unusable. And afterwards? Still unusable! Beyond opening my emails, my PC is fit only for scrap. Almost nothing else now works, including Microsoft’s own software. Even the sound is now kaput. Seeking help, you request a phone call at a certain time, which Microsoft naturally can’t be bothered to keep. The only way to get a response is to use the Disability Phone Line (I am disabled) where you tussle with some poor underpaid Indian or Filipino lad for another two hours before his team gives up and decides to “escalate the problem”. What that means is that Microsoft resolves to get back to you when Hell freezes over. You are a write-off, a casualty or war; less than an embarrassment, less seemingly than a worm, dead and buried. This is a monster of a multinational: without altruism, without accountability. The best thing, presiding over a monopoly where its rival is just as bad, is that it knows it has absolutely no need to change.

Microsoft: my case number is SRX1353589213ID. How much will you reimburse me to reload Windows 7 and MS Word? I’m holding my breath.

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Like it
Sep 24, 2016 4:25AM PDT

I was somewhat dubious due to negative comments and missed the deadline for the freebie, now I have a netbook and can't see anything wrong with it. In fact I like it so far but have heard many people say it doesn't work very well on a desktop PC. I regret not trying the upgrade now, though I am still happy with Win7 on that, I would have liked to try it for free.

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Very much Dislike windows 10.
Sep 24, 2016 4:28AM PDT

Not Hating, but very much dislike windows 10. I don't think HATE is a word to use here.

First the user agreement basically (if accepted) forces the computer owner to surrender their rights to privacy and their rights to control what goes on in the background of their own computer. The program seems to be spyware wrapped with an operating system.

Second, Don' like the feel of it. Don't like the lack of the start panel, don't like how difficult it is to find menus. Dislike the fact that every time you need to do something you have to go thru about 10 popup windows.

Third, Not downwards compatible, too many conflicts and issues with older computers, when upgrading.

I will NEVER allow windows 10 on any computer in my home.. to me its just fancy JUNK.

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I upgraded, not sure I should have
Sep 24, 2016 4:41AM PDT

I have an older but quite capable Lenovo laptop that I mainly use for presentations and playing music at different club meetings. I had set up several users to keep the club-specific content conveniently organized. After cloning the W7 setup to a hard drive I did the free W10 upgrade. Imagine my surprise when all my users disappeared! Gone! Not a big deal, since all the relevant files could be replaced from external backup. Then I installed Classic Shell so I could operate the machine like an adult.
However, I could not see any improvement in bootup time or regular performance. Except that many normal control functions have been hidden away somewhere. And after a recent experience with an HP printer that suddenly stopped working due to HP-authorized ransomware, I am now leery that allowing manufacturers too much covert control over my machines is a dodgy bargain. I will probably reinstall my W7 image ... Whatever you do, don't leave home without it!

Perryb

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Windows 10 Anniversary Update Trashed My Desktop PC
Sep 24, 2016 4:52AM PDT

I've been using WIN10 since they offered the free edition. Not the most user-friendly. Then a couple of days ago, they forced the Anniversary Update abomination on us. After signing on to my desktop PC, I clicked on the tour and after a while, left the room.

When I came back, I had a black screen and what looks like a DOS message to "reboot and select proper boot device or insert boot media in select boot device and press a key"

After rebooting, I got the same idiotic message again and with no selection list of boot devices. I've posted my problem on Windows Central forum and had only one suggestion to get the ISO files for Win10 and insert it via USB or DVD. Well, the download from the Windows site kept trying to connect for an hour. Why? Because thousands of people are trying to do the same thing.

I have a Gateway and the info said to press ALT + F10 to enter the boot selection. NOTHING works when I input anything next to the above DOS message. I have an external Seagate HDD backup but can't get into that.

I will be installing a Linux flavor after I sort out this effing mess. This anniversary "update" is the worst I've been through since I've use Windows 3.1 up to current version.

If you have a suggestion on how to recover the previous WIN10 I would be most grateful.

All I want to do

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Love it!
Sep 24, 2016 4:56AM PDT

I had no problems at all with my Windows 10 upgrade and I love the system itself. To me, there's not a whole lot different from previous versions. Yeah, things are moved around a bit...no more start screen, etc, but the basics are all still there. And I've been very pleased with how quick it is.

Now mind you, my hardware is not the MOST current, but it's about 3 years old overall. Plus I've kept my drivers up to date and like you, my software is all fairly current. So with those things checked off, I don't see why you would have a problem.

One interesting note is you mentioned the clean install. I don't remember the last time I did a clean install and my machine is running very smoothly. And I've gone through all the iterations of Windows, all the way from Windows 95, never skipped a version. I think the last time i bothered with a clean install was going from...I think it was 98 to 7, or ME to 7...whatever was just before Windows 7. After 7, i haven't done a clean install yet and things have been great.

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Being Current Is Worth the Upgrade
Sep 24, 2016 4:56AM PDT

Do you love or hate it or are you somewhere in between? - I'm somewhere in between. I would like to have control over the upgrade process, and I have concerns about future costs. I must also add a concern about future updates. I did not have what I'd call a major issue until the "Anniversary" update (see information below).

Any reason not to upgrade to it? - The only reasons I can see not to upgrade are cost and age of your PC.

If I do get Windows 10, do you recommend that I do a clean install from scratch, or should I install it directly over Windows 8.1? - As some have suggested, I'd perform an upgrade from Win 8.1 to Win 10, soak it to look for issues, then perform a clean install at a later date. There were some weird license issues in earlier versions of the Windows 10 software that were specifically tied to performing clean installs.

As mentioned above, here is the information about the issue I encountered with the "Anniversary" update (this is what I shared with family and friends):

This is a heads up about a Windows 10 upgrade issue I encountered. The upgrade failure seems to be with PCs that use SSD hard drives, and/or PCs that started life with the Windows 7 OS.

SCENARIO: PC attempted to perform an automatic upgrade to the Windows 10 Anniversary release, but failed with the following message: “Error: We couldn’t update the system reserved partition.” The error code given was 0xC1900200.

EC 0xC1900200: This error might mean that your PC doesn’t meet the minimum requirements to download or install the upgrade to Windows 10.

TROUBLESHOOTING RESULTS: I followed the troubleshooting steps outlined in http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wiki/windows_10-windows_install/error-we-couldnt-update-the-system-reserved/9154c2b1-b807-439d-8873-9699415eb657 . My “actual” system reserve partition size was 85 MB. Using the MiniTool Partition Wizard software (free download from CNET), I increased the size to approximately 375 MB, 25 MB more than required. I then forced the upgrade, and it was successful.

NOTES: (1) This problem did not occur until the “Anniversary” update. Previous Windows 10 updates performed OK; (2) This issue seems to occur only on PCs with Solid State Drives (SSD’s). This indicates it’s something that Microsoft needs to fix in their upgrade procedures, or at least check or ask the user about before proceeding with the upgrade to Windows 10 Anniversary; (3) Any Disk Partitioning tool you’re familiar with should work; (4) This is an excellent time to update other firmware/software drivers.

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Not loving it
Sep 24, 2016 4:56AM PDT

I "upgraded" a win7 laptop to win 10 and it failed to run some of my programs, so I went back. I have win 10 on a desktop and prefer my XP desktop over that. MS has tried to make things fancier and I have no use for that. I go back to DOS 6 and through all the windows. All up to XP have been backward compatible to the first OS. It's interesting that with all increases in speed and memory available, they couldn't make win 10 backward compatible. I understand that the older OSs are vulnerable to hacking, but they could wall them off with their own memory and make them "safer", but I really think what they are doing is planned obsolesce to sell new programs. You could load all the older versions with about 10% of what win 10 requires. MS should offer backward compatibility or lose to Linux. Linux is backward compatible and is improving faster than MS is downgrading.

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Solutions for You
Sep 26, 2016 2:18AM PDT

Hi,

Firstly if you have your Win 7 disk and Licence Key (COA) then you can reinstall Win 7 OK. I done it for friends before. If it doesn't activate over the web simply take the phone option and write down the string of numbers they give you to activate it both now and in the future.

Also from the link that follows you can get a free copy of Win 10 from Microsoft; install it on a 4 Gig USB stick. I also recommend downloading Produkey and use it before reverting to Win 7.

That means in the future if you decide to go back to Win10 you have the software and Licence Key (COA)

http://www.forbes.com/sites/antonyleather/2015/07/30/windows-10-updating-reinstalling-and-activation-guide-essential-advice-to-avoid-problems/#34df11081454

Trust this helps.

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Liking on my desktop, hating on my Tablet
Sep 24, 2016 5:06AM PDT

Works fine on my desktop PC not so much on my ASUS Slate...

The desktop PC I built has no isssues with Windows 10, most of the hardware is 2 years old or less.

My Asus Eee slate ep121 tablet (now 5 years old) is another story.

It was not designed with Windows 10 in mind (which is surprising since touch screen tablet use is supposed to be a big upside to Win 10)...

I have issues with bluetooth, the touch screen and my pen and the size of the Win 10 updates is a problem as (my drive is only 64 GB) so I need to remove/delete my least used software etc.

Now my Slate sits bareley used until I can find my original Windows 7 recovery disk and do a reinstall... Sigh...

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Wipe the Slate then Install
Sep 24, 2016 5:12AM PDT

I first started off just doing the upgrade from 8.1 to 10 and at first it was great, my only annoyance was that I had to redo my registry tweaks and reinstall everything, but hey a free OS from M$ is a free OS. And then the issues started... First it was my wireless card acting funny. Randomly dropping me from any 5 GHz wireless networks, and then my system got super slow (I'm talking like molasses in -40 degrees). So I did some Googling and it seemed that if you just do the free upgrade then bits and pieces from Windows 8/8.1 get "left behind" and it causes all kinds of performance issues. So I went over to Microsoft's website and got the media creation tool and burned it to a USB stick and from there I nuked my drive and did a fresh install. Now my issues are gone along with the bloatware installed by the manufacturer. Just grab the drivers for Win 10 and you're all good to go, and contrary to popular belief I've had no issues with any games/software - old or new.

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Love it
Sep 24, 2016 5:25AM PDT

I had a machine built for Win 10 18 months ago. Had Win7 Pro on it, when the free upgrade kicked off, I upgraded, then went to Microsoft, burned an ISO and did a complete standalone installation. NO bloatware, nothing, just native WIN 10 in its pristine state. It has worked beautifully ever since.

I've seen complaints about this and that, upgrades without asking, all of the noise that's gone on since it came out 14 months ago but none of that has caused me any problems. Using it, coming from Win7 was a snap, figuring out its tricks was fun, customizing it was easy and it has never given me a moment's worth of trouble. I'd do it all again the same way in a heartbeat. Best operating system they've ever brought out, bar none. :^)

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Not Here
Sep 24, 2016 5:40AM PDT

I installed Windows 10 after refusing for almost a year but buckled when they said I could go back to Windows 7 if I wanted to, (a lie, they deleted some programs when they installed it) . I found zero benefits to windows 10 and it was infinitely more difficult to navigate through it to find things I needed. I'm continually finding new problems I didn't have with Windows 7. I still have the Windows 7 disk, but somehow I know that if I tried to reload it Microsoft would find a way to not authenticate it or my machine or both. And then I'd have to fork over another couple of hundred dollars to buy another version of Windows 10 (the only one they sell now) which would probably expire after a year and force you to buy Windows 11 for mucho bucks.

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May as well, it is the future
Sep 24, 2016 6:01AM PDT

I still miss Windows 7, to me, the best of the incarnations. However, I use 10 now on every PC I touch, and despite the annoyances, I'll give it a B-.

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Win 10 is solid.
Sep 24, 2016 6:09AM PDT

I upgraded early, in spite of all the whines about 8, and then about 10. To a lesser extent perhaps. Really hard to wrap my head around the idea that people that turned down a free upgrade. Some people fear change.

I have a more complex than average system. Multiple hard drives, multiple optical, two printers, and so on. 10 is by far the easiest to get up and running in terms of driver install. Or rather, the lack of needing to do it in most cases. It has also been the most stable OS to date, and actually performs better on older hardware than 7.

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necessary evil
Sep 24, 2016 6:16AM PDT

(necessary evil) in small case. I need to be out there and I buy cheap computers which means I get the next OS when I buy. This time around I bought a laptop on sale/clearance with win 8. Updated to win8.1 and laptop went to BSD. Sent it back to company and they upgraded me to a newer laptop that did come with win8.1. Then win10 came out and I upgraded to it. So far I have had some problems with updates. Part(1) due to the fact that the updates do not always go in well and Part(2) due to them having to be fully automatic. (1) Microsoft updates are sometimes defective and even if you know the update is defective you have no choice because they are automatic/force fed. Even if they install there maybe problems that cause things not to work right later on. Just because the update goes in does not mean it's working correctly. (2) Because these updates are fully automatic my laptop would act like it was broken because in the background the update process was causing it to slow down to the point nothing was happening and that lead me to do reboots. Not what you should do during updates. Right now due to this 2 part issue I rate win10 as broken but a necessary evil.

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Got It From the Door...
Sep 24, 2016 6:17AM PDT

When they first offered it back in July 2015 I was a home user, nothing too fancy but my Dell Inspiron running Win7 got a good daily workout. I painlessly and seamlessly upgraded and have had a smile on my face ever since. I love it.

E Maiorana
Pittsburgh, PA

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Love it, and it is a must-get
Sep 24, 2016 6:21AM PDT

Unless you use one of those Apple toys or a nerdly Linux box (I also use Linux but not Apple), Windows 10 is a must. It is so far and away superior to previous Microsoft operating systems that every reason to resist it is invalid except nostalgia or a desire to experience the way things used to be in more primitive times.

The Anniversary Edition is, simply put, the best, most stable, most efficient operating system yet.

It is a shame you missed the deadline. So just fork over the money and be done with it.

It is not necessary to do a clean install. Its installation program is really quite effective, even with the most arcane legacy applications dating back to DOS. You may need to reinstall your printer drivers, though, but that is the only complication you are likely to face.

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Too broad a sweep?
Sep 24, 2016 7:46AM PDT

Quote: "The Anniversary Edition is, simply put, the best, most stable, most efficient operating system yet."

You obviously never experienced z/OS ...

(In other words, you should probably qualify your statement somewhat - like "for the x86 world" or "for desktop systems" or "for home computing" or something like that. But it most certainly isn't what you claim.)

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Too Leery
Sep 24, 2016 6:49AM PDT

I have Windows 7 Professional. All the negative vibrations kept me from updating to Windows 8, so I waited. Then Windows 10 came out. I read mostly negative reviews about Windows 10, so I waited. Nearing the end of the option to download it free (around July?), I searched newer opinions, and was on the fence, but leaning to install it. Then an article caught my eye about checking with your printer manufacturer to ensure it was compatible to Windows 10. My Canon MX860 was not, and Canon had no intention of offering an up a download. I felt I was being squeezed by Microsoft and Canon to pony up. I can hear the boardroom discussions now, "Microsoft: We'll make a new program that won't be compatible with a lot of printers...for a small, nominal kick-back fee". "Canon: That's great! We'll only offer a few of our newer ones with downloads, and force everyone else to buy new printers. Sales are really going to go up. Here's your fee!" But I digress. My existing OS works fine for my uses and my printer works great. Yeah, I let them all pass. Sure, I'll have to succumb one day, but by then there'll be a Windows 12 that everyone will be up-in-arms about...and it won't be compatible with the new printers everyone bought to go with Windows 10.

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Loving it!
Sep 24, 2016 6:51AM PDT

I have upgraded to Win 10 on all five of my computers (two desktops, one laptop, one Chinese tablet and our multimedia computer). All are running beautifully and I have even put the anniversary update on all of them. I have had no problems so far, so I am happy that I have kept all our computers up to date ( for free too) and I really am not worried about forced updates or privacy issues. That's the price you pay to be in the modern world and it's I am sure that it will keep moving in that direction (for better or worse). I imagine that people in the pioneer world were really upset when newspapers became popular or when governments started doing a census on the public, but living in an isolated shack in the wilderness is not an attractive option to me, so I will live in the the modern world. Since I am a computer tech, I have suggested to my customers that upgrading to Win 10 is reasonably safe. I have upgraded about 50 customer computers so far and I have had few problems so I consider Win 10 a success, especially when most of the upgrades were not clean installs, but over an older OS. That's pretty amazing. I also admit that for those who are afraid of a new OS, Windows 7 is just fine, it'll be around as long as that computer continues to live, but eventually most of the world will be running Windows 10 or newer. Life goes on whether you like it or not!

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Pandora's Box is Open
Sep 24, 2016 6:52AM PDT

True to my prediction on this topic “Pandora’s Box” has been opened. Views have been expressed ranging from extremely positive to extremely negative and all in between.

I’ve had a couple responses to my post “Trust Your Instincts”. Both of which (for the most part) focused on the alleged spying and information collection by Microsoft via Windows. There are other posts along the same lines in this thread.

I think the debate regarding spying and information collection by Microsoft via Windows will remain a debate. Unless proof on the level of Snowden’s against the NSA is made public against Microsoft the discussion will continue ad infinitum.

If you like Windows 10 that’s fine. If you don’t like Windows 10 that fine also. IMO one’s dislike should center more around design and/or performance issues versus yet to be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt Microsoft engagement into spying and information collection for nefarious purposes. Not say'n it doesn't occur...but to what ends?

All mainstream OS’s do a certain amount of information collection. The question is…do you take the time to understand how it’s being collected and look for means within the OS to prevent it or at the very least limit it?

People complain about Windows auto-updates and how it messes with their computers. Auto updates can be turned off and made a manual operation. If you are savvy enough you can decide what updates are needed and those that are not. You can even hide updates so that they don’t ask to be installed. Windows updates are for Windows - it’s the computer bloat-ware and/or 3rd party programs that cause most of the conflicts. However, I know that even if one controls every aspect of the Windows OS the conspiracy theories will continue.

Did you know that collection of information goes back to days when phone calls had to made with the assistance of an operator? They called them wire-taps. Sure they were just as illegal then as they are today. So I assume they didn’t happen. Yea, Right.

Here's my final take on Windows 10 – I like it! I even dealt with Vista and remember the short lived Millennium (which I quickly ditched). You think you have problems with Windows 10 – be thankful you didn’t have to deal with Millennium – and if you did you know of what I speak.

For those who dislike Windows10; not because of design and/or performance issues, but because of alleged Microsoft spying and information collection – I respectfully submit you have IMO five (5) choices:

1. Find a way to limit it and protect your information – and incidentally - Windows 7 has some of the same code.
2. Buy an apple computer and if you need a version of Windows run it as a virtual program.
3. Buy a Chromebook - then let Google mine your information
4. Switch to Linux
5. Stop computing and go off the grid - if you think it’s possible. LOL Cool

For the record I’m not a Microsoft employee, nor do I own Microsoft stock (but maybe I should consider buying some). Cool

Together Everyone Achieves More = T.E.A.M.

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Loving Windows 10
Sep 24, 2016 6:54AM PDT

I kept getting harassed by Microsoft to update to W10 on my my W7 computers, and decided to pass. Instead I got a new $1000 W10 HP Desktop with W10 and an i7 processor and 24 gig of ram along with a 128 gig SSD for programs and a 2 Terabyte HD for Data. A really nice combination. I installed all the programs on this new computer that I had been using on my Lenovo i7, with 8gig of ram that I had been using since 2010. Since this was a 6 year old computer, I decided to skip W10 on it since some of the hardware on it was originally designed for Vista. Instead I Installed a 500 Gig SSD on the 2010 Lenovo Computer and now it is as fast as it has ever been. The net result of this is that I now have 2 computers that are enjoyable to use. It is amazing at how quickly the 2010 computer now boots. About 20 seconds compared to about 10 seconds for my new W10 HP desktop. Both of them handle the jobs that I want to do very conveniently and very quickly. My first computer back in 1984 was not quite so good. I have been using computers for over 30 years now and each one was better than the last one. I went through DOS 6, to W3.1, to W95, to W98SE, to XP, to Vista, to W7 and now finally to W10. I actually don't use W10 the way that Microsoft intended, but instead use it in the way that I am used to. To me since I use Firefox, Thunderbird email, Chrome, Pickpic a photo capture program, Nitro a PDF reader, Picasa for my Photos, Irfanview for photo editing, and RadioSure for my on line streaming radio, then you can see that I am a Luddite when it comes to program use, but still enjoy using my W10 since it is so fast. It takes a while to learn the idiosyncrasies of the W10, but am using it willingly right now since it has proven to be a good O/S for me. The O/S is just the background program that controls my other programs, so for all intents and purposes most of the time I can't tell much difference between using the two. I personally think that W10 is OK, but if you use an SSD drive for programs and a regular HD for data, it is the best of all worlds. a 2 terabyte SSD would be pretty expensive and not sure it would improve my computer much if at all. An SSD for programs and 16 Gig of ram or more will make almost any W10 a winner. As far as tracking me, I haven't found any problems so far, and I am not very paranoid.

The reason that I did not update my W7 computers is that they would be 10 years old in 2020, and if it somehow did not update properly, it might have left me in Limbo trying to get it to work correctly. Putting the new Samsung SSD on it put new life into it as a W7 computer, so glad that I stuck with W7 on it. If either O/S turns up with a problem in the future, I can easily switch to the other one. My approach solves my problems and leaves me with 2 excellent computers.

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Windows 10
Sep 24, 2016 7:02AM PDT

At home Windows 10 works as advertised and Edge is fast. Now that they have added extensions to Edge I like it as I am able to use a password manager.
At work Windows 10 anniversary update did not work well with our server and settings. I had to roll back to the original Windows 10 installation.

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Don't like Windows 10
Sep 24, 2016 7:15AM PDT

There isn't much to add. I don't like this Cortana in your face at all. When this pc dies I will look in to a Mac. Just switched from Android to iPhone and like it really well. So, yeah, a Mac. If they weren't that expensive more people would buy Apple.