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1. The German internal security police as organized under the Nazi regime, known for its terrorist methods directed against those suspected of treason or questionable loyalty.
2. gestapo pl., -pos. A police organization that employs terroristic methods to control a populace.
1. Of, relating to, or characteristic of the German security police organized under the Nazi regime.
2. gestapo Of, relating to, or characteristic of terroristic police methods or operations: gestapo tactics.
if the shoe fits
Read the following, taken directly from the White House website:
?There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care.
These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation.
Since we can?t keep track of all of them here at the White House, we?re asking for your help.
If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to email@example.com.?
As historian Robert Gellately's analysis of the local offices established, the Gestapo was for the most part made up of bureaucrats and clerical workers who depended upon denunciations by ordinary Germans for their information.... Furthermore, for information about what was happening in German society, the Gestapo were mostly dependent upon these denunciations. 80% of all Gestapo investigations were started in response to information provided by denunciations by "ordinary" Germans; while 10% were started in response in to information provided by other branches of the German government and another 10% started in response to information that the Gestapo itself unearthed.Thus, it was ordinary Germans by their willingness to denounce one another who supplied the Gestapo with the information that determined whom the Gestapo arrested.
The White House has been under fire since posting a blog on Tuesday that asks supporters to e-mail any "fishy" information seen on the Web or received electronically. "The White House is in bit of a conundrum because of this privacy statute that prohibits the White House from collecting data and storing it on people who disagree with it," Judge Andrew Napolitano, a FOX News analyst, said Friday.
"There's also a statute that requires the White House to retain all communications that it receives. It can't try to rewrite history by pretending it didn't receive anything," he said. "If the White House deletes anything, it violates one statute. If the White House collects data on the free speech, it violates another statute."
Napolitano was referring to the Privacy Act of 1974,...
This shoe fits?
The Gestapo operated without civil restraints. It had the authority of ?preventative arrest,? and its actions were not subject to judicial appeal. Thousands of leftists, intellectuals, Jews, trade unionists, political clergy, and homosexuals simply disappeared into concentration camps after being arrested by the Gestapo. The political section could order prisoners to be murdered, tortured, or released. Together with the SS, the Gestapo managed the treatment of ?inferior races,? such as Jews and Roma (Gypsies). During World War II the Gestapo suppressed partisan activities in the occupied territories and carried out reprisals against civilians. Gestapo members were included in the Einsatzgruppen (?deployment groups?), which were mobile death squads that followed the German regular army into Poland and Russia to kill Jews and other ?undesirables.? Bureau IV B4 of the Gestapo, under Adolf Eichmann, organized the deportation of millions of Jews from other occupied countries to the extermination camps in Poland.
to information provided by denunciations by "ordinary"
Some want people to report to authorities that people are "calm and serene" From the Fort Hood killings posts.
James, I'm sorry but your POV is positively perverse.
I'm sure that the request for people who have been contacted by some mass-mailer of disinformation about Health Care (there's a lot of it out there) is not aimed at silencing or brutalizing or incarcerating the sender, but is aimed at producing a clear response to the rubbish being said.
Mr Out on a Limb-augh is far more like a Nazi than anyone in the Obama administration with his hectoring and twisted information and his "joke" that Dede Scozzafava was guilty of bestiality, Ha Ha Ha because she's courted every RINO out there. (Just Google it).
He bullies not only his opponents but those one would assume were his friends, as he admitted during a TV interview, purely for ratings and money. He has no platform but abuse, he has no object but lining his own pockets. And yet 10 or 15% of the American public still listen, and even intelligent conservatives leap to his defence. He's the guy who wants to create a "thought police" to rout out every contrary opinion except his.
Whatta you care? He's not your president.
Yeah Jack, he is. Not for nothing was I born in Baltimore
did all my education in the US and didn't come to Canada until I was 33. I have still spent less time in Canada than in the United States, and I still have citizenship, so he's my President too.
RE: He's not your president
and it's not like anything he does affects Canada or any other country.
That's one of the problems with being a world power...non-citizens have opinions/concerns on what the country/leader does.
I think he's over in China now, with a bunch of leaders...wonder why he's there?
He's not their president.
The shoe does not fit, James
I just concluded a rather heated exchange with a neighbor of mine who was tossing around Nazi references rather casually, with regard to Nancy Pelosi and others. I'll tell you what I told him -- that if you really think anyone in American politics (regardless of party) has anything in common with Adolph Hitler and the Third Reich, then you either need to brush up on your current events or brush up on your World War II history, or both.
When an American politician starts quoting Hitler and/or recommends rounding people up and marching them into gas chambers, THEN you can compare them with the Nazis. But not until then.
can't compare end results with beginnings
Well, he better get a move on
no one is guaranteed a second term.
Yes, you can
Look at the very beginnings of Hitler's time as Chancellor of Germany. It started right off.
People who seriously think that Nancy Pelosi or anyone else in Congress has anything in common with Adolph Hitler are in need of medical attention if you ask me.
I am sure...
you gave that same lecture to your friends on the left, including Rob, who were so fond of tossing around nazi references when it came to Bush, right?
And we're sure
you will defend Obama like you defended Bush?
It's not the message...it's the messenger?
You'd have to do a forum search to find out
I doubt you'll do it but you're welcome to. I'm glad you think the Nazi references being tossed around now are inappropriate. At a recent tea party protest outside the Capitol, one guy had a sign with a photo of a mass grave in a concentration camp, with a caption that read "National Socialist Health Care" or something like that. Thanks for condemning such sick stuff.
Actually, I have...
It's always inappropriate. But the very few compared the many who called Bush a nazi, terrorist, murderer, etc. Not even close.
I'm not searching for something that probably isn't there. If it was I am sure you would point to it.
RE:But the very few compared the many who called Bush a nazi
Where have you been?
Of course a lot of posts were deleted, but there were quite a few, including his term "Republifascists" I believe you can find a nazi reference in his posts of the last few days.
Konkel was another one who used refer to "brown shirt tactics" and "gestapo". I remember it caused quite a flap one time.
You guys have been calling Republicans nazis for decades now. Look at any pictures of left wing demonstrators from the 60s on. I even remember such references when Goldwater was running. Now your guy gets a small taste and you're SHOCKED!!
Reality is, a few nut cases on both sides of the aisle...
... love to point the finger and call each nazi.
To argue that anyone... ANYONE... is justified in using such comparisons is damned silly imo.
And I think that what makes it worse now....
....is that it's escalated from hyperbolic terms like "brown-shirt tactics" to actually trying to make a case that this Congress is following in the footsteps of the Third Reich. Some people apparently have very short memories.
Is anyone arguing that?
My point is that it has been all too common for lefties to throw the nazi stuff around, by far.
Exactly!!!! This sub-thread is closed.
I doubt a single search term will work ...
For example, it is not always necessary to use the word 'Nazi'.
Consider this post:
I'd say that is a clear-cut example of the kind of thing Ed is objecting to, but your search would not have picked it up.
I realize he didn't call Mr. Bush a 'Nazi' in this post, but he did manage to imply that all conservatives are Fascist sympathizers, and this is actually one of his milder posts.
I'm sure Josh iknows that...
he's not THAT blind. No one could be.
....I think he suggested that conservatives are lemmings. But again, I think there is a difference between offhand comments like this (and similar comments about Democrats/Liberals being "socialists" and "communists" -- don't deny it) and the recent attempts by tea-party types to make a serious, legitimate case that the US Congress is trying to emulate the Third Reich.
Can you document that "attempt to make a serious case"...
and show how it differs from "offhand comments"?
Are Liberals/Democrats truly not "socialists" and "communists" ? I would submit that some ARE. Or at least act as though they are.
And for bonus points can you show you show that there is no legitimate case that the Congress/Admin is not trying to emulate the Third Reich?
LOL, in one post....
....you challenge me to prove that people are comparing Congress with the Third Reich, and then challenge me to prove that Congress ISN'T like the Third Reich, thereby substantiating your initial challenge by your own words.
What was in your coffee this morning, Ed?
People are concerned, where this country is being taken. but hey, what do you care?
would that be a double negative?
#And for bonus points can you show you show that there is no legitimate case that the Congress/Admin is not trying to emulate the Third Reich?#
and if so, how would one answer it?
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