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Archiving HD Material for blu-ray players...

May 26, 2009 1:22PM PDT

Just posted a question re: HDSC cards...have a follow-up regarding archiving...

I've noticed an interesting comment by Boya84 last month that states:
" In theory, these AVCHD compressed MTS files on that formerly blank DVD can be played back using a BluRay player (including a PS3) connected to a HDTV. "

If I read this correctly -- does this mean that if I back my Canon Vixia HFS100 ADCHD files to a regular DVD after importing on my computer - that I can also watch on a Blu-Ray player?? If so, WOULD they still be in HIGH DEFINITION? And if so, then why in theory would I ever need a blu-ray recorder? I would imagine space available on the disc is the big difference...but not sure.

Anyway...I'm trying to figure out the best way for me to get my footage off of the flash cards and onto something that will last longer...and this method above would certainly be easy and cheap.

Appreciate the feedback,
Snackage

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BluRay
May 27, 2009 11:14PM PDT

recoders can use BluRay discs - which start at 25 gig.

Regular single layer discs hold only 4.7 gig - double layer at 8.5 gig.

High definition uses LOTS of room.

MiniDV tape continues to be the best high definition storage media at flexibility and $/gig. AVCHD continues to be "not ready for prime time".

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Stupid Question
Jul 6, 2009 7:58PM PDT

But I'm a novice.

Like so many people, I have purchased a hi definition camcorder, which I love. I've been using standard HDV tapes, which seem to work just fine. I've been waiting for the prices of blu ray recorders to drop -- it seems that they haven't or are simply dropping very slowly.

In the mean time, but videos sit on HDV tapes.

My question is, is there any issue with HDV tapes degrading or "wearing out" over time? If so, are there steps I can take to prevent this from happening?

Many thanks.

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ive heard
Jul 6, 2009 11:18PM PDT

ive heard that you should play the tapes every 6 months or so. also to store them vertically

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Everyone starts as a novice...
Jul 7, 2009 12:38AM PDT

I started over 4 years ago (HC1 onto miniDV tape).

I don't reuse tapes - they are the archive. Archives are not meant for day to day use. I go to them, infrequently, if I think there is footage I want to use for a current project.

The digital information on the tape is different than the analog tape days... though I guess we need to understand and agree to what "over time" means.

Keep miniDV tapes in a cool, dry, place, and they (and their data) should last for many years (over 10, most likely more). I have read that the "fast-forward and rewind the tape at least once each year" activity - personally, I think that could stretch the tape, and I have not yet done that - and have not had any issues with miniDV tapes from 5+ years ago (DV - before I moved to HDV).

My process:

Capture video, import to computer for editing. When I fill a tape or a specific project's video capture is complete, take the tape out and lock it. Use a sharpie to mark the tape. If there's lots of different stuff on the tape, use the label or other paper to write an index if needed. Import the video to the computer. Keep the tape in its case and store in a cool, dry place (water-proof firebox with a desiccant). Edit the imported video. Export the finished project to the camcorder (one copy to a miniDV tape with all the other finished projects - this goes back into the storage box, sometimes a second copy and use the camcorder connected to the HDTV for playback); render a computer readable file as as "full quality" 1080i - this is stored on an external hard drive - basically, a hard disc copy of the tape version, so there is more than one place the data file resides... render a computer readable h.264/720p for uploading to Vimeo or YouTube (or AppleTV); downsample to standard definition single layer DVD for "day-to-day" use... I know I am incomplete, but this has worked for me so far...