I got a large format hp deskjet recently. 9800 i found out about archival inks and how much better they're supposed to be, and they last longer. I wanted to try thee but it seems the only sites that i find selling them are for epson printers. does anyone know if i can get archival inks for HP or at least refill kits that i can refill my HP cartridges with? If so please leave address where i can buy them
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archival inks..can you get them for HP printers
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well I went looking around at the HP site and i didn't see anything about archival inks. I did a search and nothing came up. I find it hard to believe that epson is the only one that has these inks.
If you write an email to the company will they actually answer? I figured i'd get some form letter back..oh well I'll try.
thanks.
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You need to find out what ink carts are available for your model HP. While not all inks are the same, some that say, "photo quality" tend to be better inks and *generally* speaking archival as well. Marketing ploys aside, maybe Epson got "archival" as a lock in the marketing world. Regardless, if HP doesn't supply what it calls archival then consider it a lost cause. Alot depends on the ink makeup, which in turn demands the printer be capable of using but further not cause problems when other inks(if applicable) are swapped out for other tasks. Try large 3rd party replacement or refill sources that *MAY* offer a solution.
If you didn't notice, Epson has problems with clogging and since those inks used can be the source in its makeup, as "archival" maybe prone to it or generally speaking thier makeup it hard on nozzles to keep clear. Google for such for lawsuits and the like.
tada -----Willy 
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thanks for the advice. i found out through further reading that Archival inks are pigmented ink. And HP has a new Pigmented ink. They just don't call it Archival.. Problem is it is for a new printer. Don't know if you can find it for another printer.
I also heard like you said that epson has a tendency to clog so maybe I'm better off with the HP and If archival inks clog in general, using the best quality ink I can find for my printer.
thanks
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Any printer can use only XYZ ink carts. Meaning, if your HP model has only those ink carts to choose from. While some HP models use the exact same ink carts, others don't. Your manual or possibility a decal/embossing on the printer will show what ink carts can be used.
ie: Deskjet 5150, has HP ink cart numbers placed at the ink cart carriage holders showing what it can use, which are #57, #56 and #58.
I explained, try a 3rd party source as they will at least reaffirm what ink carts are available for model. Plus, they may offer on their own some solution for special needs if at all available or not. However, if the HP model is so new it may happen until later in its life.
tada -----Willy
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Just FYI; the Black ink in the HP1050 series is pigmented, the other colors in that plotter are dye based.
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Archival ink:
Means nothing. Merely a marketing term that may or may not mean pigmented ink. Several 3rd party refill kits say "archival" but are really dye ink.
Ink sellers will claim archival, when there is no standard as to what "archival" means.
Dye inks are very sensitive to what paper is used, pigmented inks less so but it is still important.
In general, HP desktop printers use dye for colors, and pigment for black. When you get into the realm of 8 color printers, that changes. Wide format HPs (24 inches and up) may have pigmented inks available for them.
I wrote this inkjet FAQ with Tshirt imprinters in mind, you may find it of help:
http://www.polyphoto.com/tutorials/bulkinksystem/InkjetFAQ.html
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thanks for the advice and the link. Lots of helpful info there.
thanks again.
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According to most new printer specifications, as long as you use their paper and ink they are all good for up to 100yrs. If you want photo's that will last a life time get a photo printer that use's die sublimation instead of ink. Camera printer docks use that system and also put a waterproof lamination on as the last coat, I accidently spilt coffee on mine and it wiped right off. Hope that helps.
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