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Apple releases 10.5.2 Upgrade

Feb 11, 2008 9:56AM PST

and it is HUGE!

Still hasn't fixed the driver problem with the ATI Radeon HD2600 Hardware Acceleration.

Oh well

P

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Not many performance boosts either
Feb 11, 2008 11:25AM PST

I DO like the new ability in Time Machine though. It's helpful. Stacks is better but the view options for it never bothered me before.
Now you can share DVDs and CDs and I believe a new utility shows up as Remote Install of OS X. Not bad, as these are probably here to accommodate the Air, but when you think about it, this really gets rid of the need for one. You could use an existing Macintosh notebook to do the same stuff now.

Another thing Apple didn't fix is a problem that I've heard about and experienced myself. The mouse. Sometimes when you wake up your Mac, the mouse does not move very smoothly and tends to bounce all over the screen. You can sometimes lose complete control for awhile, leaving a restart or a shut down (by pressing the power button) as the only way to stop it.
And to think 5.2 was going to fix everything... It doesn't have any "bugs", but it hasn't fixed all of the previous issues either. Apple will fix some of this eventually. I can only wonder what 5.3 will bring us.

-BMF

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Funny, I've never had those problems...
Feb 11, 2008 11:44AM PST

... oh wait, that's because I use Tiger.

LOL... sorry, but I couldn't resist.

Happy

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I'm not sure if those are Leopard related issues
Feb 11, 2008 1:03PM PST

I think the mouse issue could be restricted to the MBP, but I could be wrong. Maybe you don't have these because you're used to PowerPC Macs Silly, LOL. My G4 doesn't have any problems, and it runs Leopard, so anything like that must be Intel-related... Still, gotta love them Intel Macs.
Speaking of which, Apple really needs to rethink their MBP designs, or at least, how they fit the aluminum shells together. My new one is much better than its predecessor, but it's casing is not perfect... Ah, maybe I care too much LOL. I heard that MBP casing "warps" because something inside isn't aligned or placed right, though the G4 PowerBooks were subject to it too. Now if the 5.3 update could fix things like that, even more people would make the switch Wink.
Apple would do well to make some MBP changes/revisions in the near future, preferably with a Penryn refresh and better build quality.

Wasn't 5.2 supposed to be perfect though? That's what I heard. Maybe they'll get it down by 5.5. Then Apple will introduce a new version of OS X. LOL.

-BMF

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Alas, the PPC in my iBook is what kept me with Tiger.
Feb 11, 2008 11:15PM PST

From my limited experience with Leopard and the OS reviews/comparisons I have read , the beefier intel chip still runs a bit slower with leopard. I know from your descriptions that leopard will run on the PPC but I suspect the speeds would frustrate the heck out of me. Include the conflicts between CS 3 (which I use every day) and Leopard... and that is why the new OS will be on a holding pattern until I get a new mac.

Aside from this, my coworker's ongoing frustrations with performance issues from his 13" macbook (admittedly the bottom end model) and CS 2 convince me that starting at anything less than a mid priced iMac would be equivalent to buying an economy car to go 4 wheel driving. In other words, I'd end up getting bogged down and frustrated all the time.

I am curious though... has anyone heard of any future iMacs designs? I just wish for the platform to have a user upgradable CPU and video card set. I'm a huge apple fan but having that slight future scalability would mitigate the one real stumbling block of buying a pricey computer... that is the fact that is not very user upgradeable in the plug and play sense.

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The iMac has never been CPU upgradeable since its debut
Feb 12, 2008 7:52AM PST

and I doubt Apple would offer that anytime soon. Perhaps they will in the future. While anyone would want to keep their computer upgraded and up-to-date, any Mac can be made to last for years. Look at the Pismo PowerBook. You can rig Leopard to run on it. Can't say the same about Vista and Windows laptops that I know of...
Leopard runs fine on Intel machines, as it was optimized more for the Intel architecture this time around, but you would want something with just enough horsepower to make it easier on you. With 5.2 out, Leopard is worth it all in my opinion. A lot of the new features and luxuries are just too good to pass up.

Funny you mention the iMac though. I don't know what the next models will be like, other than having Penryn C2D chips, but there was a patent for a dock-like machine that resembled an iMac. You could get some Air to go with that Wink.

-BMF