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Apple forcing new software on people

by MrSkinny / September 24, 2007 1:16 AM PDT

I don't know if this has been covered already but I can't really find much mention of it, let alone a stink (which there should be), on the internet tubes.

On the windows at home, lets call that hwindows, I do the Quicktime+iTunes because the iPod gets synced there. At work (wwindows) I don't want iTunes to pickup and ask to "sync" my ipod to the blank iTunes at work, I only do Quicktime.

So an update comes rolling in for QT+iTunes and it pops up on both machines. At home yea, go... update... done. At work, thinking maybe it'll only update QT, I say go and POOF, I have iTunes. Ok, maybe I had an old copy of iTunes, registry entries, leftover directory and it got confused somehow. I un-install both and explicitly install the QT only package from the apple.

A couple weeks roll by, same thing. QT+iTunes patch.. on wwindows it patches QT and installed iTunes.

I know there are alternatives to QuickTime for my .mov files, I'll install one of those and blast QT (oh and iTunes now) but that's not the point.

The point is they are forcing a piece of software I explicitly don't want with an update <Molly>WITHOUT GIVING ME THE OPTION TO SAY NO</Molly>. We need to point this out and make a stink because next it might be a test with safari which leads up to a morning when you wake up to OsX. (I know some of you would like that but stick to the point... fooooocus)

This is not cool el-manzana.

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by benanzo / September 24, 2007 1:56 AM PDT

"I know there are alternatives to QuickTime for my .mov files, I'll install one of those and blast QT (oh and iTunes now) but that's not the point."

I think this is precisely the point. Download VLC or Media Player Classic and never let QT or iTunes touch your computer again. That will show them..

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Not really
by MrSkinny / September 24, 2007 2:30 AM PDT
In reply to: Well.

Should I not be able to use QuickTime without iTunes?

Should I not be able to use Windows without Explorer?

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by benanzo / September 24, 2007 3:18 AM PDT
In reply to: Not really

that Apple's not obliged to do anything for you -- such as provide QT without iTunes, or vice versa. If you don't like the way they operate (as I don't) don't use their software. I feel like people should stop clammoring about certain software companies' (Apple, MS) shady practices and just simply stop using their software. It's not enough to complain to Apple, or even get a thousand people to complain. They don't care. The solution is to just *stop using it* -- all of it.

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In the end that's what I've done
by MrSkinny / September 24, 2007 3:40 AM PDT
In reply to: Remember

If they push like this I pop out the side and stop using them. Most however can't tell the difference and taking advantage of that lack of knowledge is really irksome. I'm wiling to bet for every one like us they lose they gain 3 (if not more) .. ehh .. basic computer users.

For web-browser plugin sake downloaded and use:

So-far.. so good.

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by Renegade Knight / September 25, 2007 7:12 AM PDT
In reply to: Not really

For me Quicktime is a parasite. iTunes has a purpose. I only want one. Not the other.

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You can only get quicktime seperately...
by Nicholas Buenk / September 25, 2007 4:58 PM PDT
In reply to: Yes

As itunes is actually... based on quicktime and can not work without it.

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by Renegade Knight / September 26, 2007 12:19 AM PDT

I was going to use iTunes to manage my music collection and start filling in the gaps.

But now Amazon has a store that's cheaper and DRM free. Looks like I don't need to deal with iTunes after all. (I'm wishing, I'll just borrow someone elses iTunes for the occasional iTunes only song).

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Amazon, if they have more drm-free stuff than itunes plus
by Nicholas Buenk / September 26, 2007 1:23 AM PDT
In reply to: Gack

Then that's great.
And well the best part of itunes is it's podcast management feature. Honestly I'd rather use something like VLC or winamp (if it ran on my mac that is) though. But with an ipod there's not much point in using anything else.

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I hear ya... apple soiled my computer long enough
by wthomas1h / September 24, 2007 2:19 AM PDT

So I installed Rockbox, and blew away itunes and qt forever.

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by MrSkinny / September 24, 2007 2:32 AM PDT

Haven't tried RB in ages, was kinda klunky last time I used it.

Much better now?

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by wthomas1h / September 24, 2007 2:52 AM PDT
In reply to: Yea

I'll admit RB is a bit clunky, and seems like more of a hobbyist tool, but it's been fun getting it to work the way I like it to. As long as you don't mind getting your MP3s from somewhere else and dropping them onto your device, then it's really not that bad.

I made the switch because I also received some very annoying itunes/qt updates. I had the "stuttering" ipod for a few months after one of the apple updates. And one time, a qt update decided to associate a bunch of common file extensions with itself without asking permission, and I uninstalled it after that.

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by MrSkinny / September 24, 2007 3:31 AM PDT
In reply to: Agreed

I had gotten it to drop the gap between songs, a small studder that can cause you fits.

I'll try it again.

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