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Anyone seen Avatar the movie?

Jan 24, 2010 9:14PM PST
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeh2KILn7O4

The special effects in the movie are outstanding! Last I heard it was close to topping the best selling box office of all time. This film is a "must see" motion picture if for no other reason then to "see" it. Stunning piece of work by James Cameron, stunning.

The film is nearly three hours long, can be seen in 3D and in 3D Imax.

Watch this one on the big screen!

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This is not an advertisement
Jan 24, 2010 9:23PM PST

this is an endorsement for a fine film, by the way.

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My son saw it
Jan 25, 2010 12:02AM PST

.... at one of those super-duper 3D IMax theaters, and said it was great.

Angeline

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My son age 23 saw it, and although I would have expected
Jan 25, 2010 1:42AM PST

it to be right up his street, he didn't like it. Wish I could remember the movie that he said it was a copy of without much variation. I'm not really interested for some reason. Maybe I'm just getting old.

Rob

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That's the first time I've heard copy
Jan 25, 2010 6:52AM PST

I've heard several people's comments, and most are favorable. A few weren't thrilled, and a few comments were made about apparent agendas within the film. However, others I know that I would expect to complain about agendas in the movie liked the film and didn't think that aspect was that strong. But I've not seen or heard anything suggesting it was a copy. Indeed, nothing I've heard or read even hints at derivative of something else. If you remember what it supposedly copies, I'd be curious to know. I will note that if you're a big SciFi and/or fantasy reader, there isn't many stories that can't be compared at least in part to others you've read in the past. So perhaps it is something similar here. My wife with the 3D set up. It seems to cause her headaches watching 3D in the past. I just have annoyances with trying to wear their glasses along with mine. Don't know if the newer techniques and glasses will cause her less trouble. I suspect it's something about the 3D effects and the glasses interacting badly with her contacts, particularly since one contact is sized for closeup work and the other for distance. I also have problems with that long in the theater seat, even the newer one we go to with nice seating. Often my hip or leg will start to ache and I can't find a comfortable position. I still go to movies occasionally (couple of times a year), but it's getting more difficult with the longer movies. So even though many say you have to see it in 3D, I'm not sure whether we'll see it until we watch it in 2D at home.

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One claim I've seen...
Jan 25, 2010 7:22AM PST

is that it's a ripoff of the novel, Call Me Joe by Poul Anderson. I've also seen it said that it steals a lot of elements from the Halo video game. Some have also cited Disney's Pocahontas and Dances with Wolves. And there was another movie that was also claimed (don't remember what it was).

The thing is with Science Fiction, especially Sci Fi adventure movies, is that there are so many themes and elements that are shared (alien life forms, space/time travel, Galactic empires, robots/androids/artificial beings, etc...) that it's hard to come up with something truly original or unique. And if you did, it would probably not get much of an audience. A movie usually has to hit certain marks to be commercially viable.

If you read or watch enough of the stuff some influences may seep in without your realizing it. Look at Star Wars... basically theft of he sci fi canon and other things all the way, and no one seems to care.

I haven't seen it. I'm not that interested in it, but maybe once I see it (probably at home) I'll change my mind. Not worth it to me to put on those glasses.

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Delgo
Jan 25, 2010 7:55AM PST
http://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/00028333.html

Soon after the release of the film's teaser trailer in August, "Avatar" was hit with a potential lawsuit from Fathom Studios after many pointed out similarities of the movie with "Delgo". Of it, a spokesperson for the studio said, "From what we have seen, we are amazed by the visual similarities between the two films and we are reviewing what legal options may be available to us."
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I had free tickets so didn't see it in 3D
Jan 25, 2010 12:11PM PST

and still enjoyed it. No funny glasses.

Diana

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Halo video game...
Jan 26, 2010 2:02AM PST

The ring shaped setting in Halo reminds me Larry Niven's book Ringworld in 1970.

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Yep! A direct ripoff, IMO.
Jan 26, 2010 2:37AM PST

But it's becoming a Science Fiction standard, like Dyson Spheres.

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i believe there is a Russian movie
Jan 25, 2010 7:55PM PST

that has the same plot (and, if i'm not mistaken)
the planet is called Pandora

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here's a link
Jan 29, 2010 5:57PM PST
http://scifiwire.com/2010/01/was-avatar-ripped-off-fro.php

The British Guardian newspaper reports that Russian audiences are noting the movie's similarity to The World of Noon, or the Noon Universe, created by popular Soviet fantasy writers Arkady and Boris Strugatsky, a cycle of 10 best-selling science fiction novels written in the mid-1960s.

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Hey!
Jan 29, 2010 6:19PM PST

Isn't that a switch/ Aren't they accused of stealing our stuff most of the time through bootleg, knock off CDs/DVDs. Turnarounds fair play I suppose. Well it might not be fair but it's the way it is.

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It's eye candy
Jan 25, 2010 12:05PM PST

to be seen.

The film is, I believe, PG 13 and intended for a teenager/young adult audience. The story line reflects this audience. It's sort of a mechanical warrior verses the Indians theme, odd but true. Yep, seems to be a bit political in content. Visually the characters could have been a little more lifelike to match the superb environmental elements.

All this aside, the special effects are WOW! WOW! WOW! So near lifelike it's incredible. A technological master piece. A must "see".

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Avatar is #1
Jan 27, 2010 8:26PM PST
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Sniff, sniff, I smell a data rat.
Jan 27, 2010 9:42PM PST

Hmmm, about those data adjustments. Avatar has only been out for about a month the other film data cited was for total sales during the "run" of the films listed but of course that wasn't said. Looks like someone is not happy with Avatar's success and wants to toss a 'wrench in the works".

http://www.usingenglish.com/reference/idioms/wrench+in+the+works.html

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i like the way this guy thinks
Jan 29, 2010 4:45PM PST

The latest target for the search for hidden meanings has been Avatar, James Cameron's sci-fi extravaganza pitting the ruthless mercenaries of a mining company against the native inhabitants of a beautiful tree-covered planet called Pandora. Yet putting to one side for the moment as to whether Avatar is secretly an ode to the tree-hugger lobby, an anti-war diatribe, a comment on the military-industrial complex or really a cunning ploy to sell more popcorn and 3D glasses

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/with-movies-often-what-you-see-is-all-there-is-20100128-n1bt.html

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